Whichever catagory the reviewer wants to put the UI in should _not_ be more than a 5-6 not only due to the lack of advanced features like addons but simple stuff like UI scaling or even the option to select different skins doesn't exsist. It's like giving a car 9/10 on it's windows becuase they're tinted perfectly but ignoring the fact that they don't roll down. Additionally the section responsible for all of the loading screens should be taking a fairly large hit too.

If you want to rate the game by comparing it to how good other games were on the day they were released then I think the scores in this review are fair (UI still too high).

If you're comparing it to the best of what's available in each catagory (i.e. the best GFX/UI/Story/PVP/etc of any game = 10) then other than story all of these scores are far too high.

Originally posted by Vallista

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by pandrax

I think you are so infused with blinding hate for a game you would of never played to begin with that you should just stop talking, right now.  It's not SWG Get over it and move on. There are far more people enjoying SWTOR then who hate it. The ones who don't like it were never going to play it to begin with.

Maybe if people would score games honestly, instead of inflating them, people would not be complaining about reviews that give high scores to games that do not deserve it.

Maybe if some people would realize that a good amount of the complaints are subjective and it is very certain that some things that people are complaing about just aren't issues some people.

And do you think it stands to reason that the people who are giving this game decent marks might be the people this game is made for?

Just like people who make bad remarks about EVE might get you to explain to them that EVE isn't for them do you think that this game might not be for you and those who have the same taste as you?

 

Oh come on, Sov. Please don't tell me you're jumping on that bandwagon.

Numerous people - including some who do like the game regardless - have noted that the scores are in conflict with the body of the review. Criticizing several areas of a certain category, praising one or two... and then giving it a 8.5 anyway is definitely not consistent. Other game reviews I've seen here which had numerous issues cited about a given category were not given almost perfect scores anyway on the strength of 1 or 2 positives. 

Criticizing aspects of the gameplay, but giving it a high score because "story has never been so fun!" - when storyline is typically a separate category from gameplay to begin with - is rather odd.

Citing numerous issues with the visuals of the game, but giving it a solid 9/10 - one point away from perfect - regardless screams "shamelessly biased scoring" to me. The UI issues cited would have brought the score down a point just by themselves, were this most any other game. 

Using an absolute bottom-of-the-barrel example such as "$60 games that only give 10 hours of gameplay" as a basis of comparison for TOR's longevity? Really? Choosing the least favorable example in a different genre of gaming to prop up TOR's longevity score? I gotta say, anyone who can't see right through that little stunt is willfully blind. 

And so on.

The impression I got, along with numerous others, from reading the review, and even watching the video, is that the score was determined before the reviewing process was even started. 

Again, it has nothing to do with someone giving a high score to something they like personally. It has everything to do with someone giving a near perfect score to something, despite a list of rather damning criticisms that would have brought that score down in most any other circumstance.

The review score is inconsistent with the review itself. 

 

I have to agree ^^

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I would have to Agree to Disagree,,,,,,,

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Yea thats what im sticking too.....

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Originally posted by Aeolron

And yes I still find guild wars 2 a carbon copy of WoW, I'll probably get warned again but so be it, these things need to be said!

This is a blind statement and I am not even close to being a GW2 fanboi. You just proved their can never be another sword and board fantasy game in the genre as long as WoW is alive. No matter how different people just can not let go.

btw look up my "Puremallace how to hate on a mmorpg 101". Step 1 was downplay major features. The mods here might have locked it, but look at the threads being made treating the voice overs as a common mmo feature. Step 2 was sites like Massively and others turning on the game.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by pandrax

I think you are so infused with blinding hate for a game you would of never played to begin with that you should just stop talking, right now.  It's not SWG Get over it and move on. There are far more people enjoying SWTOR then who hate it. The ones who don't like it were never going to play it to begin with.

Maybe if people would score games honestly, instead of inflating them, people would not be complaining about reviews that give high scores to games that do not deserve it.

Honestly - no game will every get a high rating from all of the elitist richards on this forum - except for the 2nd coming GW2 which isn't even out yet - there are already shrines being built somewhere for gamers to freaking trek to.

I can't believe a pve only game has held my attention for two weeks.I have been going slow...by making many characters to find the one or two I want to play.Looks like Sniper and Mercinary are it..for now. I just got my first ship last night..Now that was cool.Watching what I'm typing...I sound like a mushy thinking kid.AND I'M HAVING FUN.RVR is what will keep me or loose me.I sure hope we see  great 24/7 persistent world realm vs realm system soon.

Originally posted by echolynfan

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by pandrax

I think you are so infused with blinding hate for a game you would of never played to begin with that you should just stop talking, right now.  It's not SWG Get over it and move on. There are far more people enjoying SWTOR then who hate it. The ones who don't like it were never going to play it to begin with.

Maybe if people would score games honestly, instead of inflating them, people would not be complaining about reviews that give high scores to games that do not deserve it.

Honestly - no game will every get a high rating from all of the elitist richards on this forum - except for the 2nd coming GW2 which isn't even out yet - there are already shrines being built somewhere for gamers to freaking trek to.

The amazing thing about the second coming of GW is how much near hysteria its potential players have been able to build up for a game likely to release finally in late 2012 or even early 2013.  

Originally posted by Moirae

Originally posted by Clerigo

Originally posted by Moirae

Originally posted by Aeolron
I agree that guild wars 2 looks neat but amazing? It looks like a carbon copy of WoW I guess the "appeal" is that it's free to play but still have to purchase the content updates ect..

A game that I hope does the impossible is TSW no level cap no all the same toons, ten years of content ready to goto the game ( as what funcom says ) and best of all, it's a adult mmo, kids will have a hard time trying to piece together real human lore, myths urban legends and bible stories to get ahead in the game.

^^This

Its because of people like you two that this genre is in this curent state: stale, heartless and boring.

GW2 is a carbon copy of what???

Funcom what???

Some people can really live on low expectations or with eyes wide shut....

Its because of people like you that the games are going down hill. Sorry. Its you haters that aren't helping anything. 

 

And btw, you really should keep your mouth shut until you actually read what someone says instead of make it up as you go.

A "hater"...??? OK then im not an hater anymore, "program". So tell me what should i do know? Maybe buy every mmorpg that gets launched and say they are all amazing, free of problems, finished products, totally diferent of anyother i have played before and be happy and keep on buying all of them and paint rainbows...

...well, "program", i dont see it that way. You have your opinion, i have mine.

If the definition of hater for you is "person that wants quality when paying for a product", then i am indeed a "hater", "program".

A person that says GW2 is a carbon copy of WoW and is interested to buy a Funcom product after wat they did to customers with AoC should be the one keeping his mouth shut, unless you dont mind when buying a new car for it to have no engine...and you smileeeeee 

Now, go be a good robot  and say "yes" to everything...just say "yes yes yes yes", buy a stamp with a printed "yes" and just "stamp stamp stamp" (thats a Chris Rock joke)