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Stradden  11/01/06 1:47:24 PM

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Jon Wood traveled to San Diego to take part in an event hosted by Sigil Online and SOE. There, he got some hands on time with the game and files this First Look Preview.

The quests in this game seem well designed and well put together. My only real complaints are in some of the little housekeeping issues. The first is the game's use of "leading quests", which take a player from one area to another in order to continue the story. Some of the leading quests that were in place at that stage of the beta (you have to assume that there will be changes before launch) were transparent. "Lead this camel down this hill," might teach some of the skills needed to work in the game's caravan system, but it really doesn't make sense as a full-blown quest. These quests are not the majority, but rather just something I noticed in my travels.

After each quest that a player completes within the game, a screen will come up asking beta testers to rate the quest and give in their feedback. This approach is, in my opinion, head and shoulders above the "hope they come to the beta boards" approach that I've seen from companies in the past. This method, right there and in your face, prompts you to take a few seconds and make a comment and indicates to me that Sigil is actually interested in what players have to say about the game and ways to improve it.

You can read more here.

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Mrbloodworth  11/01/06 2:24:16 PM

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I would have enjoyd a little more depth into why you said some of this things you said in your article. Like mabye how many options you DID have, and what was missing, even if it is beta.. Mabye expanded alittle more on why you said you enjoyed the card game. ETC..

It feels and reads like you were holding somthing back.

Anyway, good read.

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iamjmk  11/01/06 2:37:01 PM

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Nice preview. One question is that last picture a Hobbit hole in Vanguard? Looks that way to me. Just curious. Cheers and  have a great day!
 
fansede  11/01/06 2:41:11 PM

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Hm, no comments on the intricate combat system?  No time to try to craft anything?

 

Anageth  11/01/06 2:42:42 PM

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Thanks Jon, good preview.

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Anofalye  11/01/06 2:44:03 PM

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Yeah, pretty hard for any game with visible equipement to compete with a game such as CoH for the character creation, if not outright impossible.  Unless you leave the option to the player as to what is visible and what isn't, so if the breastplate is choosen as not visible then the player could have more options, regardless of what is equipped...which then open a new problem about consistancy, if someone is wearing a robe can he be displayed as wearing a plate mail?  There is no easy way out of this for any game with equipement.

 

Anyway, I still hold to what I have been saying for years now.  Raid-free server and I buy the game, the absence of such servers will results in my absence from the game althogether.

 

Overall the game could be made more intuitive, but that is easier said then done.  "Easy to understand but hard to master", the game is still not that easy to understand...been intuitive is a challenge for any game, and CoH put the bar quite high for every competitor on the "Easy to understand, yet hard to master".  Example, you are wandering around searching a NPC, while realist it isn't intuitive, choices have been made.  Still, with raid-free servers this game could be the next jewel...without offering raid-free server it will lack the unique advantage EQ has in it time, EQ was offering a PvE ambiance to players...what is Vanguard offering that competitors doesn't, raid-free server could be that special edge.

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Istabraq  11/01/06 2:44:57 PM

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I agree Bloodworth , it seems that this article was written with the strict instruction not to give anything away.

The reason I read articles like this is the simple fact that I'm seeking new information about the game & to be quite frank this article told me nothing I didnt already know.

The main issue I see with Vanguard is what are the plans for endgame and more specifically PvP ? as without an 'end game' there is no point to developing a character and everything else becomes somewhat pointless as eventually you hit the level cap & quit ( ala WoW) .

Vanguard looks a very promising game however the lack of information about key facts such as combat & PvP does worry me & I just hope we start seeing some updates which contain real information sooner rather than later .

 
Mrbloodworth  11/01/06 3:00:17 PM

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Originally posted by Anofalye

Yeah, pretty hard for any game with visible equipement to compete with a game such as CoH for the character creation, if not outright impossible.  Unless you leave the option to the player as to what is visible and what isn't, so if the breastplate is choosen as not visible then the player could have more options, regardless of what is equipped...which then open a new problem about consistancy, if someone is wearing a robe can he be displayed as wearing a plate mail?  There is no easy way out of this for any game with equipement.

 




Ummm... SWG? Ryzom? Matrix? Conan? Lord of the Rings?

I understand what you are getting at, but i think your slightly misinformed.

Layered clothing and armor is entirely possible.

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Stradden  11/01/06 3:43:33 PM

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This article isn't and wasn't meant to be an in-depth analysis of the game, but rather just a quick article with my initial responses to playing it. It's a First Look Preview. 

I haven't had enough time to really sit down with the game and do a full-on preview full of details. Once I've put enough hours into the game, we'll run a full preview.

I'm still learning a lot of the systems in the game, just like any new player would have to. I tried to give a breif overview of what I've done and experienced so far. I'm sorry if that's not enough.

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Jon Wood

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hbosman  11/01/06 4:51:36 PM