Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Say it isnt so!!  All named mobs drops are  BoP now???  So other than mining or skinning etc there is nothing to sell unless your a crafter?  I dont get it, why are they removing the fun stuff?  Does anyone else not like this change??  I actually miss this game and though i might go back for a bit but bleh.....

It isn't so.....or I should say, not exactly.

Even though named drops are now BoP, they have up'd the drops on non-named mobs, so there are still plenty of blues and greens to go on the market, as well as new deconstructable loot to put crafting items on the market.

My markets actually have filled up since GU4, I'm making more money, plus with the increased spawn of named, I have upgraded half of my personal gear. I'm not too upset about the BoP to be honest.

Hmmm well that dont seem to bad then.  I just miss the freedom of the game, its huge and though people will argue, i think the gfx are better than any other mmo out atm.....weather effects... dang im going to have to go back.......

thanks for the response!

Well, actually theres no greens anymore, at least not from level 20 on.

Thought I had a couple of YELLOW drops now which where not BOP because they where not from a named.

I hate artificial tags that prevent trade like BoP, BoE, no trade, no drop.. whatever, it's stupid and unrealistic and bad for the economy. It doesn't stop farmers from plying their trade, it only reinforces mandatory linear gameplay styles like raiding.

Originally posted by RedwoodSap

I hate artificial tags that prevent trade like BoP, BoE, no trade, no drop.. whatever, it's stupid and unrealistic and bad for the economy. It doesn't stop farmers from plying their trade, it only reinforces mandatory linear gameplay styles like raiding.

Well thats a whole kettle of fish there - but i will say this: After the changes made to BoP, BoE etc since GU2 up to GU4, you CANNOT in any way deck your toon out with top end gear using bought plat. You need to go and do the content yourself.

I agree, I think BOP sucks! It makes solo'ing less viable, and requires running dungeons. If I want to take it slow, fighting 1000 easy mobs instead of 5 hard ones, i have still "earned" the right to the good stuff imho, i should be able to trade/sell stuff from my adventures to acquire the better items. I dont' think it solves anything... i mean why did they even bother... was there some huge outcry? Were people canceling accounts because it was possible to "pimp out" your toon? They should spend more time optimizing code, than removing the few things that make vg somewhat unique in the current mmo market. It's all SOE's fault ... everything bad int he world is SOE's fault :)

flame away....

When I was playing there was alot of items dropped that were boe,damn I remember I sent a mace to my shammy waiting for him to level as it was so nice,It has been a while since I played but cant imagine that has changed.

Originally posted by adderVXI

Say it isnt so!!  All named mobs drops are  BoP now???  So other than mining or skinning etc there is nothing to sell unless your a crafter?  I dont get it, why are they removing the fun stuff?  Does anyone else not like this change??  I actually miss this game and though i might go back for a bit but bleh.....

There's plenty of reasons why they made this changed...

1) To avoid people farming named mobs, So you can't decon good / useless loot that you don't need to make money

2) So you cant twink your toons (most boss mob loots are lower leveled than required to kill them, because boss mobs are meant to be grouped and not soloed.

Those are the things that comes to mind for the moment. But SoE screwed up the economy when they allowed ALL players to decon stuff. Sigil never intended for this to happen, thus there was a HUGE inflation increase because of this. I wouldn't blame people buying gold for real money because how would you expect a noob who just started the game to buy stuff around level 10 that costs 5 gold+ ? I didnt even see my first gold until level 20.

NON crafters highly took advantage of this and made tons of money, they deconned items for powders and dust and sold em at an incredibly high rate, making crafters selling their stuff for a high rate just to see a profit out of it. If you're too lazy to go crafting or harvesting, you shouldn't have the ability to decon items simple as that, and Sigil made it right.

GU4 is only a slight improvement, you can definitely see the economy change with the patch, but there's still one thing that they still need to change to make it even better, ONLY crafters can decon items, that was the way it used to be when VG launched and it should stay that way. Because the materials you get out of deconning for items are for crafting anyway.

Originally posted by jonchicoine

I agree, I think BOP sucks! It makes solo'ing less viable, and requires running dungeons. If I want to take it slow, fighting 1000 easy mobs instead of 5 hard ones, i have still "earned" the right to the good stuff imho, i should be able to trade/sell stuff from my adventures to acquire the better items. I dont' think it solves anything... i mean why did they even bother... was there some huge outcry? Were people canceling accounts because it was possible to "pimp out" your toon? They should spend more time optimizing code, than removing the few things that make vg somewhat unique in the current mmo market. It's all SOE's fault ... everything bad int he world is SOE's fault :)

 

flame away....

It wasn't Sigil that made these changes, the