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grimfall  7/05/08 4:34:05 AM

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I like it when the character gets killed by those ferocious does.  The MMORPG world would be much cooler if there were more Bambi's to battle.

 
Roin  7/05/08 9:55:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ozmodan

I will laugh at anyone who says you can do pvp with a turn based combat system.  While it works in a single player game, trying to do it in a pvp environment is just beyond ludicrous.  There are so many ways to exploit combat like in a pvp situation that it just makes it ridiculous.

 

Well seeing as you've never played the game.  Your opinion is moot. I on the hand currently DO play this game.  The PvP is actually quite entertaining.  As brute strength doesn't work to well.  You actually have to think out your fights.  No are no real "right" group set ups.   If you set up your group to fit your playstyle.  The fights are much more enjoyable.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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acidblood  7/06/08 1:10:06 AM

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Hmm, it could work, but it would need to be F2P and the combat would have to have some real depth to it. From the video it looks pretty boring (what's with having to run over and pick up the loot after all the enemies are dead?) but then without seeing what sort of strategic options that player has available it's kinda hard to tell how much fun it would be to play.

 
Roin  7/06/08 1:20:35 AM

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Originally posted by acidblood

Hmm, it could work, but it would need to be F2P and the combat would have to have some real depth to it. From the video it looks pretty boring (what's with having to run over and pick up the loot after all the enemies are dead?) but then without seeing what sort of strategic options that player has available it's kinda hard to tell how much fun it would be to play.

 

Technically loot doesn't drop on ground.  When a mob dies.  The body remains there for a set amount of time.  You have from the time the mob dies up until it disappears to search it for loot.  You don't need to click even though you can.  Hitting the x key sends all available members off to search the bodies.  Can even be done during really long fights like boss fights just to make sure the body doesn't vanish before you check it.

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acidblood  7/06/08 4:34:17 AM

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I can understand having to manually loot during battle, as it adds another choice to make; do I fight to the end or do I loot as I go in case I have retreat / there maybe something on the corpse that could really help me in this fight / the corpse may not be there by the time this is over / etc.

I just thought it would be nice / make sense to have the game 'auto-loot' for you once all threats had been eliminated so that you can get on with the doing what you are doing rather than having to wait for your characters to run up to and check all the bodies; it is good that you can do that with a single key press though.

 
quypham  7/06/08 12:15:15 PM

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PVP in turn-based mmorpg could be the best idea ever since people who is adicted to winning they actually use hack to click fast >.< I mean look at some of the pvp in youtube and if the game show some sort of highlight or outline then that what you need to look at

Ok when they pvp notice how fast the skill are being clicked i mean look it took like a second for them to use 2-3 diffrent skill as far as i know no one can click that fast not even nerds :P so ya if it turn base i dont care if you cheat in pvp -.-

now for bots(autoplay) you ask? Face it every games has those >.<

 
Roin  7/06/08 2:15:45 PM

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Originally posted by acidblood

I can understand having to manually loot during battle, as it adds another choice to make; do I fight to the end or do I loot as I go in case I have retreat / there maybe something on the corpse that could really help me in this fight / the corpse may not be there by the time this is over / etc.

I just thought it would be nice / make sense to have the game 'auto-loot' for you once all threats had been eliminated so that you can get on with the doing what you are doing rather than having to wait for your characters to run up to and check all the bodies; it is good that you can do that with a single key press though.

 

Probably.  Who knows it might even be a cash shop item down the road.  I should also mention that while doing that you can (and sometime are) attacked by another set of mobs.  Even though you stop to fight something mobs are still wandering around the field the whole time.  It's not uncommon to have another group pop up during the fight in dense mob area's.  Happens when you go to loot to even if the original group of mobs is dead, so you always have to be on guard.  If you attack two sets of mobs touching each other you will also be fighting two groups of enemies as well.

Running from a fight incurs the same penalty as dying in a fight.  Which is lost of gold and exp.  Death of your main character is also an instant lost resulting in lost of exp and gold.  Since the others in your group aren't soldiers or anything of the like.  They are mercenaries.  It sort of makes sense and it's sort of annoying at same time.  As it makes it rough on people that make their main character a melee type as you want to keep them in the front line, as they have highest defense and hp.  It not such a bad issue as long as you upgrade your armor or at the very least keep it enhanced.

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acidblood  7/06/08 8:01:48 PM

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