Age of Conan

Originally posted by Ghist 

1. Don't ever quote XFire numbers about AoC after being told by several dozen fanboi's that XFire is irrelevant to AoC's numbers.

2. If you are actually worried about LotR's comparison XFire numbers, give it a month.  I assure you that AoC's lead will be corrected.

1. How is it irrelevant?

2. When should we stop giving it a month seeing that it already been 2 months since release?

Originally posted by observer

This sure derailed into a Turbine/LotRO thread.  Why doesn't anyone ever stay on topic?

misdirection is a tactic often used when trying to defend the undefendable. No way Avery can defend Funcoms lack of fore sight in their game design so he attacks another game instead trying to redirect the attention away from Funcoms and AoC's problems.

An interesting debate.

I play both currently and really enjoy both. As per the pvp thing I agree that the sor should stay during cutscenes. But one thing I really like is FC's explination of their pvp policy in the OP's post. I mean I love the lets have fun, make pvp fun and for a reason thoughts. I hate the uber gangs BS lets run around and pwn. I think thats what FPSs are for. It would be nice to have relevant pvp servers where pvp only occurs when there is a reason like barfights etc...but ya um I don't live in a land where trees are soda and unicorns go on trips to magic caves and candy mountains.

I played lotro at launch along with AoC. If anyone tries to compare the bugs in lotro to AoC thats like comparing venearial disseases of a virgin to that of your local crack whore. Even though I didnt care for lotro, it was by far the best launch of any mmo I ever played.

At this point I think swg had less bugs at launch than AoC. And if AA wants to compare xfire numbers (funny because I thought he was one of the guys who said x-fire had no basis for gameplay of gamers in AoC) I suggest he look back in a year when AoC is in the shitter and Lotro is still goin.

on a side note: Jackdog...I miss your old sig

Originally posted by Hamrtime

I played lotro at launch along with AoC. If anyone tries to compare the bugs in lotro to AoC thats like comparing venearial disseases of a virgin to that of your local crack whore. Even though I didnt care for lotro, it was by far the best launch of any mmo I ever played.

At this point I think swg had less bugs at launch than AoC. And if AA wants to compare xfire numbers (funny because I thought he was one of the guys who said x-fire had no basis for gameplay of gamers in AoC) I suggest he look back in a year when AoC is in the shitter and Lotro is still goin.

on a side note: Jackdog...I miss your old sig

I was in SWG beta and played for a few months after launch also but I think this was about the time SOE  rolled back to a previous version of their database engine and things started straightening out for them.

On the XFire yeah it seems as if Avery can't decide whether itr is relevant or not. If AoC keeps losing 10% to 15% each week as it has been for awhile now, by the end of August it will be Below EvE and LoTRO both.

Are you referring to the Snoopy one- pissing off fanbois since '97? I switch them in and out a lot and enjoy making new ones on occasion. That one refers back to my UO days and almost getting banned from the beta over my uhhhh ...vocalness at them announcing it's release. Now that was a rocky release but that was 11 years ago also and was more tolerated then.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by observer

This sure derailed into a Turbine/LotRO thread.  Why doesn't anyone ever stay on topic?

 

misdirection is a tactic often used when trying to defend the undefendable. No way Avery can defend Funcoms lack of fore sight in their game design so he attacks another game instead trying to redirect the attention away from Funcoms and AoC's problems.

If you want to bring another game and praise them in your inital post to use as a comparison, then I only saw fit to provide a comparison that you would relate to.

As a champion of posting "by the day" Xfire stats for AoC, I thought a bit of perspective, in my post would help. I don't think x-fire is a good indication of anything and thats another subject on another thread.

I just found it very Ironic that you complain about AoC and crap coding and then champion lotro during a blackout...

I did respond to your opening thread, and I agree with you somewhat.

What would be more ironic though, is if we were at a bar, having a good ole chat, im sure you could see that I wasn't trying to misdirect anything.

For you its a flaw that shouldn't be there, for me its how the game is with the rules as they are, both we both agree its something that could be done better.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by observer

This sure derailed into a Turbine/LotRO thread.  Why doesn't anyone ever stay on topic?

 

misdirection is a tactic often used when trying to defend the undefendable. No way Avery can defend Funcoms lack of fore sight in their game design so he attacks another game instead trying to redirect the attention away from Funcoms and AoC's problems.

 

If you want to bring another game and praise them in your inital post to use as a comparison, then I only saw fit to provide a comparison that you would relate to.

As a champion of posting "by the day" Xfire stats for AoC, I thought a bit of perspective, in my post would help. I don't think x-fire is a good indication of anything and thats another subject on another thread.

I just found it very Ironic that you complain about AoC and crap coding and then champion lotro during a blackout...

I did respond to your opening thread, and I agree with you somewhat.

What would be more ironic though, is if we were at a bar, having a good ole chat, im sure you could see that I wasn't trying to misdirect anything.

For you its a flaw that shouldn't be there, for me its how the game is with the rules as they are, both we both agree its something that could be done better.

exaggerating a bit here arn't we? Blackout LOL. They shut down the servers one night to fix an issue. Community relations on the problem has been nothing short of outstanding. Take a look at todays "Server issues" sticky thread. It has 50 posts since it was made at noon and Patience, the community manager,  has posted about 7 times in it. Silverlode is running like a charm now, or was as of 5 min ago. For some XFire figures of the day from last Saturday to this  Saturday AoC lost another 12.4 % in hours played. LoTRO even with it's server problems lost a touch over  1/10 of 1 percent (144 hours less)

Now back to the  Funcom mess. The management there is obviously floundering and can't find their butts with a road map right now. The whole PvP design is flawed and that is what is really killing the game. Trouble is there are way too many issues with the rule set and having  by GM's who are either poorly trained or just flat out incompetent is not helping their case a darn bit.

Funcom just has too many problems Avery, they compound the games issues with half ass trained GMs and forum moderators. Bad design and poor customer service bodes ill for them. They are headed down the toilet  and taking a express trip. With this games initial sales they should have over a million subs by now. Instead I doubt if they have 300K left and that would be a very high estimate. In all reality it is probably closer to 200K than it is 300.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Jackdog

 Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 

 

Turbine, lotro has been down for nearly 16 hrs of the last 48hrs - correct coding :) longest stretch ever..

If you had played AoC you would know that  attacking "mobs" from a perched position would result in the "Mob" evading and healing faster.

Because AoC offers PvP servers they have a rule that as Combat is disabled during a cutscene (tortage) a player attacking you during this cutscene puts you at an un fair dis-advantage and therefore is punishable.

What would be a better idea is to either put shield of the risen or the evading stance on you automatically when you enter a dialogue cutscene.

As its a stated punishable offence, the community is the reporter in this situation, and if you have been to Tortage lately you will have seen plenty of ARK's around. Also when a quest is taken in a populated area and one player attacks another an NPC will attack the attacking player.

But while you troll a games forum that you no longer play for  "entertainment value" becauase your game of choice is broken, those that play AoC are doing just that.

I would recommend clicking on Patiences sig to join her Facebook link as a friend if your that bored.

ouch Avery, I wouldn't go the way of attacking other developers like Funcom does.  It's not in good taste, and when you attack developers with stable games that are honest with their customers, it's going to backfire.

I'd stick to pointing out AoC's good points, and not trying to say:

"Oh yeah, well Turbine did this, so THERE." *sticks out tongue*