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Malickie  8/27/08 6:15:37 AM

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When will we receive concrete news on the release of the PVP/Fugitive patch?

What has prevented you guys from being upfront with us about the status of this update?

I'm going to use Mythic as an example here. They've been pretty straight forward about everything they are doing. They offer constant updates to the community, covering everything from missing content to the status of core issues and timelines of when to expect fixes.

Your employers on the other hand basically tell us to expect it when it's done, without really telling us the status of a feature or fix. For me this greatly wears on my interest in coming back.

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WSIMike  8/27/08 7:34:40 AM

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Should be interesting to see his response...

If he gives one at all.

The Mythic example, though, is dead-on. There's a contemporary of theirs doing exactly what people have been asking FC to do for months now; to be open, honest and accountable with the players about exactly where things stand and where they're going with it... in meaningful terms, not vague generalities and blatant omissions.

Apparently, FC - even after they supposedly "realized their mistake" about underestimating the importance of communication with AO - still disregards just how important that is to their  credibility and to players' confidence.

Even if people still thought AoC blew chunks, they could still say "But at least FC is being honest with their players and not hiding from them".

Yet, they  just continue to keep doing it.

 


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milkysaysmoo  8/27/08 7:58:11 AM

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"When it's done"

if only they'd adopted this philosophy BEFORE they launched the game....

 

 
Malickie  8/27/08 8:26:48 AM

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Originally posted by WSIMike

Should be interesting to see his response...

If he gives one at all.

The Mythic example, though, is dead-on. There's a contemporary of theirs doing exactly what people have been asking FC to do for months now; to be open, honest and accountable with the players about exactly where things stand and where they're going with it... in meaningful terms, not vague generalities and blatant omissions.

Apparently, FC - even after they supposedly "realized their mistake" about underestimating the importance of communication with AO - still disregards just how important that is to their  credibility and to players' confidence.

Even if people still thought AoC blew chunks, they could still say "But at least FC is being honest with their players and not hiding from them".

Yet, they  just continue to keep doing it.

 

 

 

Exactly, I should add:

Famine, if you can't answer these questions without generic replies. Don't even waste your or my time.

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octa  8/27/08 8:51:47 AM

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Famine's answer to similar questions on the official forums has essentially been that he's a community manager and not a developer and can only pass on what the devs tell him.

 
Mattissimo  8/27/08 9:02:44 AM

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Seems to be their philosophy, their brandmark. On the other hand if they would have listed every single bit of content they announced and did not make it into the game or in some sort of crippled form - they would have never made the sales they did leaving them in a even worse situation than they are now.  I guess.

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Xris375  8/27/08 9:07:46 AM

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Originally posted by octa

Famine's answer to similar questions on the official forums has essentially been that he's a community manager and not a developer and can only pass on what the devs tell him.


 

Based on his posts, he seems like a good guy hanging with the wrong crowd. Sure, it his choice but it seems to me he actually wants to help people. But as they say, sh*t in = sh*t out.

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Mrbloodworth  8/27/08 11:59:39 AM

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo

When will we receive concrete news on the release of the PVP/Fugitive patch?

What has prevented you guys from being upfront with us about the status of this update?

I'm going to use Mythic as an example here. They've been pretty straight forward about everything they are doing. They offer constant updates to the community, covering everything from missing content to the status of core issues and timelines of when to expect fixes.

Your employers on the other hand basically tell us to expect it when it's done, without really telling us the status of a feature or fix. For me this greatly wears on my interest in coming back.


It’s currently on testlive and has many revisions and tweaks. It has not been pushed out early, and they are taking great measures to test it, and take feedback from players, and implement changes based on the feedback.

What more do you want?

 

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Lobbyboy69  8/27/08 12:05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by Malickiebloo

When will we receive concrete news on the release of the PVP/Fugitive patch?

What has prevented you guys from being upfront with us about the status of this update?