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  Azrile

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10/30/08 11:41:02 AM#1

There are about 50 servers.  Assuming they could do server mergers today, how many of those 50 should be closed?

 

How many servers should be closed

None - populations are fine
1 -3 servers
4-6 servers
7-9 servers
10 - 15 servers
16+
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“The corollary to that is if you’ve seen a game consolidate servers, you know it’s in deep, deep trouble — that’s not a healthy sign for an MMO,”
"Look at us six weeks out. If we’re not adding servers, we’re not doing well.” - MJ from Warhammer in July Interview

  Newhopes

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10/30/08 11:53:42 AM#2

Judgeing from the server list they probably should close about half of them.

  banthis

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10/30/08 12:24:16 PM#3

maybe 25% of them..depends on how the transfers go hopefully they'll select a few servers to let people completely transfer off then shuffle any stragglers onto a random server together somewhere.  They should just announce servers X - Z are closing please select where you wish to go with your guild/friends etc 

They just released with way to many for the amount of people a healthy server needs in the game.  Its probably good they did though seeing what the wait times were at launch before they opened up the servers to allow more players on.

  LondonMagus

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10/30/08 12:28:06 PM#4

I play on the European servers but the problems seem to be fairly similar.

It's a shame, if they had just been more realistic at the start & launched with fewer servers but allocated new ones as required there wouldn't be any problem.

Now though, they are stuck between the bad publicity that server merges would generate for a newly launched game & the potentially worse problem of losing players due to low server population issues.

The best solution might be for them to be honest & admit they over estimated initial demand, but that would be a very tough call for someone at Mythic to make.

If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  User Deleted
10/30/08 12:29:57 PM#5

No idea.  The servers I'm playing on (Sylvania and Badlands) seem to be fine.

 

  User Deleted
10/30/08 12:33:48 PM#6
Originally posted by LondonMagus

The best solution might be for them to be honest & admit they over estimated initial demand, but that would be a very tough call for someone at Mythic to make.


 

I'm pretty sure they did that already.  It's pretty evident by them working on the upcoming free character transfers. 

I kinda feel sorry for Mythic, they're damned because they opened too many servers, but they would have suffered the same fate by people complaining about long waits and performance issues with fewer servers.

  susanto1228

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10/30/08 12:37:19 PM#7

Mythic just wants to brag look we have 55 full servers!! In reality they don't even have half of them full right now.  Merge half of them into the others would be the recourse, but as we all know, merging servers=doom.

 

let's be realistic here

 

I would say Averheim which has about 15,000 is a healthy amount of people though Destro heavy.

55 servers at 15,000=825,000 subs in NA only, um no don't think so Mythic yes merge servers, and sorry for your  doom and gloom but 10 vs 10 in ORVR is not exactly fun...

  Frostbite05

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10/30/08 12:41:15 PM#8

would say close they should merge them into a new server.

  infofront

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10/30/08 11:31:59 PM#9

They need to close 49 of them.

  Magter

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10/30/08 11:56:12 PM#10
Originally posted by infofront

They need to close 49 of them.


 

...and have 300 hour long queus? I don't think so...

  Jtrav1987

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10/31/08 12:35:21 AM#11

They've already announced which servers you can transfer from, and  which one's you're allowed to transfer to. So my guess is they will close those servers once they get everyone off. Can't remember them all of the top of my head, only remember Sea of  Malice atm, and that's simply because I almost rolled on that at launch, but went with Red Eye Mountain instead (praise the gods).

  Aguitha

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10/31/08 12:39:05 AM#12

At least half of them.  If they do that i might come back.

  strategy

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Joined: 10/30/08
Posts: 189

10/31/08 4:41:19 AM#13
Originally posted by LondonMagus

I play on the European servers but the problems seem to be fairly similar.

It's a shame, if they had just been more realistic at the start & launched with fewer servers but allocated new ones as required there wouldn't be any problem.

Now though, they are stuck between the bad publicity that server merges would generate for a newly launched game & the potentially worse problem of losing players due to low server population issues.

The best solution might be for them to be honest & admit they over estimated initial demand, but that would be a very tough call for someone at Mythic to make.


 

Wise words. MJ himself said months ago that the success of the game would be measured by adding servers. He wasn't even thinking of merging.

Sometimes just plain simple facts are the most easy and trustworthy to work with. They launched too many servers and sold too many copies to shops initially (those famous 1.2 M boxes sold to retailers at first they even spoke of 1.5 M).

Clearly the money hungry (and even little desperate) EA wanted to have 20% of the market in one big sweep, but this hiding behind server numbers and "accounts created" stuff is a no no in these days of communications and open resources.

If Mythic wants the support of its still massive number of interested fans (say 400K/500K), they need to act now or a new FunCom backfire is going to hit them. And time is running out very fast.

That young boy who first discovers MMO's with his pocket money and walks around on War's empty servers will quickly go elsewhere. In november 3 expansions go out for existing MMO's with all the publicity. Mythic has 8 days to clear the server situation and make for 40% full/50% medium and 10% low servers.

No matter how many. I suppose holding on to 2/3 of the number they now have would be the minimum to achieve this.

  Ixnatifual

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10/31/08 7:51:39 AM#14
Originally posted by Azrile

There are about 50 servers.  Assuming they could do server mergers today, how many of those 50 should be closed?

 

Actually there's a bit over 130 servers US and EU combined. I'm not sure where you get the number 50 from. Even the US has about 66 servers.

  Guillermo197

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10/31/08 7:56:32 AM#15
Originally posted by JonMichael
Originally posted by LondonMagus

The best solution might be for them to be honest & admit they over estimated initial demand, but that would be a very tough call for someone at Mythic to make.


 

I'm pretty sure they did that already.  It's pretty evident by them working on the upcoming free character transfers. 

I kinda feel sorry for Mythic, they're damned because they opened too many servers, but they would have suffered the same fate by people complaining about long waits and performance issues with fewer servers.


 

Well that was the catch22 situation they plunged themselves into with a poorly optimised game engine.

Half the server here in Europe (about 30 of them) can be closed. Then we will have about 30 servers left with a healthy population when those people are transfered over to them.

I don't think that's too bad at all. 30 full game servers in EU plus 25 full game servers in US (after they closed 55 low pop ones) is pretty decent and actually pretty good to continue and pogress on towards the future.

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  protoroc

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10/31/08 8:19:07 AM#16

75%

 

I understand why Mythic opened too many servers, the demand from beta warranted opening so many. What Mythic failed to realize was that the majority of their beta testers were just kids looking for a free game to play that never intended to purchase a subscription.

  Pheace

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10/31/08 8:26:11 AM#17
Originally posted by susanto1228

Mythic just wants to brag look we have 55 full servers!! In reality they don't even have half of them full right now.  Merge half of them into the others would be the recourse, but as we all know, merging servers=doom.

 

let's be realistic here

 

I would say Averheim which has about 15,000 is a healthy amount of people though Destro heavy.

55 servers at 15,000=825,000 subs in NA only, um no don't think so Mythic yes merge servers, and sorry for your  doom and gloom but 10 vs 10 in ORVR is not exactly fun...

 

15k "characters" I assume?

  Azrile

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10/31/08 8:57:23 AM#18
Originally posted by Jtrav1987

They've already announced which servers you can transfer from, and  which one's you're allowed to transfer to. So my guess is they will close those servers once they get everyone off. Can't remember them all of the top of my head, only remember Sea of  Malice atm, and that's simply because I almost rolled on that at launch, but went with Red Eye Mountain instead (praise the gods).


 

I posted this poll righ before Mythic announced the server merges.   I knew they were coming soon, I just expect them to do it the same day I made this poll.

BTW.. the correct answer is 19.    They are transfering characters off of 19 low/low servers.

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“The corollary to that is if you’ve seen a game consolidate servers, you know it’s in deep, deep trouble — that’s not a healthy sign for an MMO,”
"Look at us six weeks out. If we’re not adding servers, we’re not doing well.” - MJ from Warhammer in July Interview

  strategy

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Joined: 10/30/08
Posts: 189

10/31/08 9:49:30 AM#19
Originally posted by Azrile
Originally posted by Jtrav1987

They've already announced which servers you can transfer from, and  which one's you're allowed to transfer to. So my guess is they will close those servers once they get everyone off. Can't remember them all of the top of my head, only remember Sea of  Malice atm, and that's simply because I almost rolled on that at launch, but went with Red Eye Mountain instead (praise the gods).


 

I posted this poll righ before Mythic announced the server merges.   I knew they were coming soon, I just expect them to do it the same day I made this poll.

BTW.. the correct answer is 19.    They are transfering characters off of 19 low/low servers.


 

That's only for the US market.