Star Wars Galaxies

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Originally posted by Lepidus

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Originally posted by Clackamas

This is all fine.. but lets get back to the purpose of this thread... why do we need a special thread?  And why isn't the news of SOE mistreatment of customers and games not getting a news article out of MMORPG?

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The problem is that this story is old. We covered the NGE when it came out, we reviewed it and I wrote a quite clear editorial on what I thought of the issue. The problem is that these boards are unusable by anyone who may still want to play the game because anyone who says anything about the game other than "I hate SOE" is chased out the front door before their second post.

A lot of what you guys complain about is fair comment, but really, its been a few months and frankly you've voted with your dollars by canceling your accounts. This thread is here and should easily be a warning for anyone who comes by these boards to see what is up if they did not know. All we want is for all users to be able to discuss things in peace, you guys long ago stopped allowing that, not only on this board but every other SOE boards.

On many of them, it's not even fair comment. Thus, to be fair across them all, we started a thread of this nature. If there are any new developments that cause you to hate SOE more, feel free to discuss them outside this thread. All we ask is that if you want to rant about how much you hate SOE, do it here. If you have a thoughtful discussion that does not involve death threats, then feel free to make new threads. Just end the hijacking of every thread and respect the original poster's desire to talk about whatever they wanted to talk about.

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Hmmm.

This turn of events is very interesting. As I have read other posters' posts they all seem to raise various theories of why this thread was actually started. They are all possible, but currently I dont think SOE has any involvement on these forums. These forums are currently independant. The staff on MMORPG.com is NOT evil in any way and they do allow us to state out opinions. SOE isnt all omnipotent and beielive it or not I dont think there is any money being passed under the table.

At least I dont think.

TO THE STAFF:

I can definitly agree with you that the SWG forums are littered with negative posts involving SWG and very fanatical bashing. However, I disagree with you that it is a growing problem. People are not being "chased out" because

1. There are other supporters of SOE and SWG. I actually encountered and got flamed by one of them (he apologized later)

2. When SWG/SOE supporters post there, they pretty much know what theyre getting themselves into. If they are new, well then they will see what the rest of the population thinks.

And thats fine. In fact thats excellent. What youre really doing here is stifiling the players' voices by putting them all into one thread. I agree that it is ridiculous, but not out of control. It is healthy for the forum to have a certain hatred for a company and dislike a game, because as we all know SOE forums are highly moderated and is run like Soviet Russia. In this way we get the word out to all the other players. Sparked debate is good. I know it may not be good if they are too agressive, but thats why we have moderaters. Also, it shows just how drastic the situation is. This will also pass in time.

You can see there is a large response to this stifling of the players's voice. Also not seeing an article about the apparent abuses from Sony is also disturbing. I would think if you were the editors and staff of MMORPG.com you do represent the players' voice? this sounds like a paradox to me.

With best regards.

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Originally posted by Distiler
MMORPG.com I adore your work but you should understand that our contribution to the health of this market is essential. We should be allowed to troll SOE openly and say the truth to everyone and the truth is that SOE-SWG is a real big fraud. We lost months of our lives putting effort in SWG...it's all vapour now, and SOE knew it way before NGE. Don't try to understand this if you haven't played SWG during last year.

Now, can I flame SOE? I won't troll the forums, but I'll flame to the max SOE if anyone asks or talks about it.

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Originally posted by Vexin

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Originally posted by Bonez005

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The question, after more than a year, and two major changes to the gameplay engine (costing many, many players to lose their investments in time and money), is:  Does SWG have the sub numbers now that match those of World of Warcraft?

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And the Ironic thing about that is many SWG players went TO WoW.  SOE drove thier player base straight to the the competition.

I currently play WoW.  I am content there, but nowhere near as happy as I was in SWG pre-NGE.  If you start asking around on any WoW server, you will find  people there that used to play SWG, but left because of how SOE has handled SWG.

If SOE would bring back the old pre-CU SWG, and put some honest effort into it, they could easily rival WoW.  If not surpass WoW.

Ive also Played CoH, and found refugees there.  I hear EVE, DDO, and many more have SWG Refugees also.

SOE has a SWG Player base...we're here...scattered among the various MMO's...watching...waiting....waiting to go home...someday

http://media.putfile.com/RIP-SWG

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Originally posted by Lepidus

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Originally posted by Clackamas

This is all fine.. but lets get back to the purpose of this thread... why do we need a special thread?  And why isn't the news of SOE mistreatment of customers and games not getting a news article out of MMORPG?

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The problem is that this story is old. We covered the NGE when it came out, we reviewed it and I wrote a quite clear editorial on what I thought of the issue. The problem is that these boards are unusable by anyone who may still want to play the game because anyone who says anything about the game other than "I hate SOE" is chased out the front door before their second post.

Sorry but, if its the review I am thinking about, all you did was accept SOE's canned answers and never delved any deeper then that. Not an insult to you. Just my opinion. I feel as if you just jotted down a quick email with some questions then waited for the answers. Never took it further then that. That isnt reporting on something. Its the bare minimum. Just scratching the surface.

A lot of what you guys complain about is fair comment, but really, its been a few months and frankly you've voted with your dollars by canceling your accounts. This thread is here and should easily be a warning for anyone who comes by these boards to see what is up if they did not know. All we want is for all users to be able to discuss things in peace, you guys long ago stopped allowing that, not only on this board but every other SOE boards.

I would love to let it rest. I would love to just go on. But first, my game is dead. One that I enjoyed. All because of 8 guys filling out a poll. And second I, or no one that feels like I do, can let it rest. The day we let it rest is the day SOE gets away with it. I must keep it in the front. Not let them come along and put all sorts of media spin on it and bury it.

On many of them, it's not even fair comment. Thus, to be fair across them all, we started a thread of this nature. If there are any new developments that cause you to hate SOE more, feel free to discuss them outside this thread. All we ask is that if you want to rant about how much you hate SOE, do it here. If you have a thoughtful discussion that does not involve death threats, then feel free to make new threads. Just end the hijacking of every thread and respect the original poster's desire to talk about whatever they wanted to talk about.

I am not too worried about that. With SOE's current track record, there is no end to them making mistakes. Thereby giving us new chances to make more posts outside this thread.

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Kai