All Posts by eric1000

Originally posted by D3mis3

Alright my specs are as follows:

Intel 2.20GHZ duo

8800 Ultra (NOT overclocked)

2GB RAM

500W ATX power supply

After playing the beta for only like 30 minutes straight on maximum graphics my entire computer shuts off and restarts automatically. This happens with Crysis on max graphics - but I crash in that game after like 4 hours straight (and it's Crysis, so yeah...) Is it just the bugs/memory leaks in the beta client that does this or my computer? Some people told me this is happening to them too (they get blue screen of death beforehand)

Well first of all your PSU isn't big enough, the 8800 ultra sucks up over 300w on it's own leaving little left for everything else, that aside however are you using Vista by any chance?

Originally posted by Lonesamurai1

Ok, whens this going to start guys and trolls?

 

I bought the Open beta Collectors Edition preorder from my Local HMV and after heading to www.war-europe.com/collectorsedition like the ll ooklet says, it asks me to make an account (I was logged in at the time on the website) and then doesn't give me a place to put the damn codes...

 

Could someone enlighten me as it really was annoying me last night

That part of the site isn't up yet but that's no big deal as OB is still quite a way off.

Originally posted by Vladarion

working on a budget just a tad under 1k so my ideal would be like 980 bucks, but most systems i build go to around 1,004-1,034

case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133048

psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103941

MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128327

cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103251

mem http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231144

hdd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

vga http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085

dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228

os http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

mouse http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105026

kb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109156

monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254029

Originally posted by Vladarion

I will work with one and see, does AMD really make that much of a difference though?

If you built a decent AMD system you wouldn't notice much difference in performance to be honest, especially in single applications like games.  For about the same price as the cpu you have listed you could buy a phenom 9550 quad core.

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by eric1000

500 would leave him needing another new one should he decide to add a 2nd card later on.  600 is not much more expensive and would save money in the long term.

unfortunately SLi is not really worth the bigger power supply...for an extra 200 dollar 8800gt, you get a 20% performance increase on top of paying for a bigger power supply....might as well just get a better vid card then at that price

Apart from the fact an 8800 sucks up 300w on it's own then yes the better card would give a greater performance increase.  From his last post however he is working to a tight budget so that doesn't appear to be an option.

OP, have you also priced up an AMD system as you may be able to build one to better spec for about the same price as the Intel based one?

500 would leave him needing another new one should he decide to add a 2nd card later on.  600 is not much more expensive and would save money in the long term.

Originally posted by Vladarion

Alright i went to premium how is the 8600GT 1gb video card?

8600GT will do the job fine but get a bigger PSU, something around 600 - 700W

2Gb ram is not enough for Vista really and Vista home basic is useless, you would need home premium at least.  That aside I would also opt for a larger power supply but these aside and dependant on price not a bad little system which should run AoC on medium reasonably well.

Originally posted by talif

What mmo is ever ready for release? Even WOW had lots of problems at launch lag low FPS of 1 or 2  freezing crashing  unable to login unfunished zones,no high lvl content should i go on? But look at it today yes you only have 1 launch but things can and will be fixed just give them time and they will. I to am one for not paying for a broken product but i came to realize when it comes to mmo's some release with less bugs and stuff than others and most of them shape up to be pretty good. So why so many ppl bashing this one?

Oh btw we will see post like these when Warhammer comes out wait and see OMG this game sucks don't get it. I guess it's just human nature to be short sited and not take the time to see what can happen in time ah well.

Actually WoW had a pretty good OB and launch, the only real game breaking bug was a database one which caused very long lag spikes when looting etc.   If you want a bad launch look at Vanguard, a game that is now pretty much dead in the water and that is directly as a result of how bad it was at launch.

As for Warhammer, yes it's possible that it could suffer the same problems when the time comes but Mythic did something that Funcom didn't, they witheld any mention of a firm release date and pushed back when needed.  Funcom made the error of giving a firm release date and are now having to stick to it, despite the bugs.  All games have backers and AoC is no different, Funcom are not the only investors in this game and when you give backers a release date they expect and usually demand that the box is on the shelves on that date.

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Originally posted by eric1000

DeadJester, I believe you mate.  What I'm saying is that Funcom took that CB client, made a few more fixes and released it to OB.  One or more of these small tweaks is causing the problems and that's something that could not reasonably have been predicted, but to try and cover that by saying it's an old client is so stupid that it's beyond belief, although some here appear to have swallowed it.

 

In order to believe that line we would have to also believe that Funcom are not concerned with all the bad feedback a faulty client would bring and I don't think FC are that dumb to be honest.

No, since the OB client is an older build than the CB client. In fact, a Mod even posted that the OB client build is older than the one that the PVP weekend was based off from.

Okay so what you are saying then is that Funcom really ARE the dumbest developer on the planet.  Makes you wonder how that board meeting went doesn't it?  'I know, lets release client build xxx for open beta and lift the NDA on it'.

You seriously expect me to believe that nobody there would have pointed out that doing that would be like hitting a canoe with a freaking torpedo?

DeadJester, I believe you mate.  What I'm saying is that Funcom took that CB client, made a few more fixes and released it to OB.  One or more of these small tweaks is causing the problems and that's something that could not reasonably have been predicted, but to try and cover that by saying it's an old client is so stupid that it's beyond belief, although some here appear to have swallowed it.

In order to believe that line we would have to also believe that Funcom are not concerned with all the bad feedback a faulty client would bring and I don't think FC are that dumb to be honest.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SignusM

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

People need to accept the Closed Beta runs alot better and that the OB plays out completly different for the most part. Sure there are bugs, but nothing like some of major ones in OB.

We all here know that unforseen things can go wrong, hell I was there on that fateful night in Ao when peoples houses decided to eat everything stored in them.  This was quickly hotfixed with a patch that stopped any weapon from firing, resulting in many deaths.  30 or so minutes later another hotfix which got the weapons working but that now stopped anyone having access to their homes at all.  An hour or so later and another hotfix which made everything worse and finally a return to the original 'homes eating items' with a warning not to store anything and a prominse it would be fixed in the next couple of days, which it was.  These things happen and are for the most part impossible to predict.   Logic tells me that this is close to what has happened here.  Funcom wanted the OB to be as smooth as possible because word of mouth and 1st impressions are of vital importance.  To achieve this they rang in a few more patches and fixes and one of these somewhere down the line screwed things up.  Unforseeable and unfortunate and has led to a lot of negative and hostile responses to the game.

To try damage limitation by telling everyone it's an old build is even more stupid than using a faulty old client would have been in the first place.  No company wants to lift an NDA on a build that is going to result in bad reviews but that is exactly what we are being asked to believe.   The client is running okay for some people and really badly for others so this is not serverside latency as that would affect everyone, it's clientside and that means less than perfect performance on some system configurations.  How long it will take to track down just what the problem is amongst that mass of code is anyones guess and sooner or later it WILL be tracked down and fixed, but to come out and pretty much admit to being the dumbest developer on the planet by releasing an old client to OB with the NDA lifted is like asking us to believe in pretty pink fairies at the bottom of the garden.

I am not bashing Funcom or AoC here apart from the fact their customer relations machine appears to have blown it's engine and lost the plot.  I firmly believe that FC thought this client was good to go and that some horrible aspect has popped up that they in no way could have predicted beforehand and that's fair enough, as I said earlier these things happen.  But be truthful about it for god's sake.  When are these companies going to finally get the message that if they tell the truth and admit to the failings then players on the whole can be quite a forgiving lot, even down to having a laugh at it at times.  But treating us like morons with fairy stories is just insulting and people do not forgive insults anywhere near as easily as they forgive honest human error.

Originally posted by Orca

 

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Originally posted by Ecranomical
You're going to need a 64 bit OS to run 4gb ram. The one you have there - as far as I can tell - is the regular 32 bit.

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No, 32bit is limited to 4gb. You need 64bit if you want more than 4gb.

Wrong!  32 bit OS says 4Gb but in reality you never get it, 3.5Gb maximum.  To run a full 4Gb you need a 64 Bit OS.

Games for windows titles people, you know, the ones with the games for windows logo across the top.  These titles do not put icons on the desktop.  Go to Start>games and lo and behold a window pops open and they are all in there.

And found that your lunch slipped off the plate just as you were about to take a bite :)

Originally posted by Housam

 

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Originally posted by Lobotomist
I just have to write this.
Remember Vanguard
Remember the mysterious DEBBUGER , it sopposedly had in open beta , that was bogging all performance and causing FPS lag ?
How we were told that performance will jump at retail , as soon that they remove DEBUGGER ?
Well it never did, guess why ?
1 month before release. When game is already gold. Thats it. The game is finished. If there is any work to be done , it is in repairing obvious bugs , not performance.
Open beta is more or less a public demo , something to judge how crowd accepts the game.
Its not the beta where they repair the game.

SO
What you see now. This is 99% accurate picture of what AOC is and will be.

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actually no..its also a stress test. 50k ppl one 3 servers = alot of stress

You repeat this warcry on about a dozen threads so let me set you straight.  If what you say were true then EVERYONE would be getting bad performance because the lag would be serverside.  The fact that some are getting bad performance while others are playing the game at good framerates means that the lag is clientside.  Coupled with the fact that some of the systems having problems appear to be pretty high-end and you have client optimisation problems on some system configurations.  Sod all to do with 50k people on 3 servers.

Originally posted by Herodes

 

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Originally posted by Housam

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Originally posted by Praxus
Dunno where you're getting the "everyone seems to hate it" thing? What I am seeing is that a lot of people like it, and a lot have experienced technical issues. Personally my experience has been great so far - seems fun and polished, with a few minor bugs.

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look arounf in this forum and you will c

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With your MMO-history you dont have a clue? Did you only play the 14-day-trials? ;)

Those, who like a game, play. Those, who dislike it, write.

Some dev in some game said some day: 1 angry customer weighs more than 10 pleased customers.
The result you see here. Even if there are 49950 people enjoying the trial: if 50 people shout their problems with a game out, this could have an impact on pre-order-numbers.

sorry my english.

The graphics really are superb and full kudos to FC for that but graphics do not a good game make, gameplay is infinately more important and in this aspect AoC is found wanting.   The combat system is different but hardly the much hyped revolution that Funcom have been spoon feeding us, and after a short while it gets repetative and boring, at least in my opinion, others opinions will differ.   What many here ( especially the raging fanbois ) appear not to realise is that so close to release the OB client is pretty much what you will get at release.  Sure there will be minor tweaks here and there but certainly no major overhaul and all this FC BS about this being an old client is just that, BS.

Some here are saying that the game is running so badly for some because 50k people are spread across just 3 servers.  Sorry but that excuse doesn't hold water because if that were truly the case then it would be running badly for everyone, server lag is like that.  What we have here is mainly client lag which is down to the individual machines in peoples homes and the connection speeds they are running on.  Now, connection speed and internet latency are something that Funcom can do very little about and they are not to blame for it.  The client being badly optomised on some system configurations however they can certainly do something about.  I am not expecting miracles by a long chalk, there isn't a game released anywhere these days that runs well on every system out there.  It appears however that there are a great many systems, old and new, low end and high end that the game is having trouble with, it isn't just a certain video card or a certain sound driver for example.  Just looking at some of the specs that have been posted from those having very bad game performance shows that this problem is a little deeper than most realise and a couple of weeks isn't going to see many vast improvments.

Not a lot of difference mate.  If you have the money buy an 8800 GTX and keep the GS for a backup, you would notice a larger difference from that.

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

If your a first timer i would recommend buying a whole PC as things can get tricky if you don't have technical experience. ( Ready build)

Everyone's gotta start somewhere lol

Chosen memory is fine for that motherboard.  Power really depends on which video card you will be using but no mate, you dont need one that big.  For the rig you have there then 700 - 800 watt will be fine even with a large graphics card.  As for that card it all depends on what you can afford but with that motherboard the top end GX2 would be a waste of money really as the speed increase over the 8800GTX range isn't that high and you wouldn't notice it.

Word to the wise here.  One of the MAJOR components is the motherboard and will have a direct effect on the overall speed of the machine as a whole.  You get what you pay for so buying cheap is something that would come back to bite you on the ass, however, the top end 790 boards are way overpriced at thye moment and the 780's are not far behind.  I would look at a good 680 board, something like the Asus Striker extreme which also gives you the option of SLi where the Intel chipset does not.