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Originally posted by tryklon

I play WoW for 4 years now and ive been waiting for WoTLK since its announcement, but I am terribly disappointed with this expansion. First of all, everyone can see its unfinished, we can see that the dev team was clearly pressed for an earlier launch, the game is very poor item wise, i managed to level from 70 to 80 and there was only 2 different skins in my armor type (plate), the pvp itemization for lvl 80 is still not implemented, so there is no real rewards for now. I stopped going to instances because every boss drops 3 items, lol, 3 items, using the same skins as every quest rewarded item. As soon as I reach lvl 80 ppl start raiding, and who would have known, we clean naxx on the first week, its too damn easy. Lets speak about crafting now, there are no rewards or recipes to collect we are for now, except maybe one or 2 professions, limited to what the trainer teaches. What about those functions they promissed us and are not there, like new dances for instance. I wonder, its this what Blizzard can do in 2 FULL years developing? what the hell, did blizzard pulled all developers to Diablo 3? When will we get more content, more recipes, more item skins, more balanced raiding. Did blizzard learn nothing about releasing unfinished games from the competition?

Meh.. one oppinion amoung millions.  My only complaint with wotlk is that it feels a little too easy, far to easy to AoE your way through the game.  Please fix this blizzard.  The rest is tip top.

Was it unfinished? I'll let that comment pass, your obviously venting.

100's of new armour and weapons in wrath http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Images#tab=Weapon.2FArmor_Models 

As a LW there are over 70+ new recipies 40 odd can only be warn by lvl 78+

The only thing blizzard missed out were the new dances, we got a bunch of new animated emotes though. And a new shadow system that blizzard didn't even mension.

The reason there is no PVP itemization is because blizzard are waiting for the new session to start. That was planned.

You have only yourself to blame for rushing through the content.

I went to grizzle hills last night and love the look I had to take some shots.

Blizzard work just as hard if not harder on their graphic than say AoC, It take far more skills and man hours to produce hand made textures and obscure architechure than realisitc stuff, how hard is it to motion capture a human or to take a photo of a brick wall?

*i have only read the first few posts*

I think WAR sounds great on paper, ORvR and PQ's all sound great on paper, but once in the game its the players who decide if these things work.

I saw the failing on PQ's from day 1.. for PQ's to work you need players, if there are no players in the area there is no point for PQ. Thus lower teirs struggle to get any PQ working, I saw this in my first week of WAR.

ORVR, sounds great, but again if there are no players it means nothing. Take PQ and RvR away and you have a very mediocer game, so they need to get it right... which they have yet to do.

I think mythic should half the number of keeps, make it so there are 1 or 2 places\keeps in each zone where all oRvR happens that way theres always action to be had, even if 90% of players ae farming scenarios.  Also reduce the number PQ's to much time and resource being spent on a mechanic that fast become obsolete.  Do this I might sub to WAR.

Also why did mythic feel they had to rename everything,

Class = Careers
Levels = Ranks
Battlegrounds = Scenarios
Elite mobs = Heroes
 

Originally posted by mrnutz1065

What are peoples feelings on Wintergrasp and the tenacity buff?

I personally think it's pretty fail that because of afkers/ essence farmers one team can have "raid bosses" rolling around destroying people. 12 stacks of tenacity = lol. Typical blizzard to make it carebear by not allowing underdogs in an "oRvR" zone. Blizzard may as well have made wintergrasp instanced and turned it into another AV.

Good fun but pretty dissapointed at this "Mass oRvR" people were proclaiming.

Discuss

Too early to judge Wintergrasp, the vaste majority of players are busy leveling and wont bother to hit Wintergrasp till max cap.

In beta I was playing wintergrasp with 100 players and had a riot of a time.

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by coffee

no mmo gives a free month with an expansion.

Lotro does but they are not trying to suck every dollar they can from their customers but maybe that is where they went wrong.
 

Hey WOW has 11 million subs/suckers that will worship the box Blizzard pooped in so it's no surprise. I hear the next Xpac has peanuts and a new class called corn.

 

so they do.. a good move to hold on to their dwindling player base I guess.

 

Yeah they do Blizzard appreiciates your money no questions asked the MMO community thanks you for keeping the trend alive now give us a "moo"  so we can relate with the heard.

Oh and if ya ever wanna see what an Xpac looks like check out Lotro. Blizzard is to busy swimming in your money to show ya.

Interesting I was reading up on MoM.. looks like they have instances that take players back in time to key moments in the story... now where did I see that? oh yeah WoW.
 

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by coffee

no mmo gives a free month with an expansion.

Lotro does but they are not trying to suck every dollar they can from their customers but maybe that is where they went wrong.
 

Hey WOW has 11 million subs/suckers that will worship the box Blizzard pooped in so it's no surprise. I hear the next Xpac has peanuts and a new class called corn.

so they do.. a good move to hold on to their dwindling player base I guess.

no mmo gives a free month with an expansion.

Originally posted by redcap036

Originally posted by Lence

Blizzard has announced that second of World of Warcraft expansion Wrath of the Lich King racked up 2.8 million sales worldwide in its first 24 hours on release.

This makes it the fastest-selling PC game ever released. It also keeps the title in the family; the previous record-holder was first WOW expansion The Burning Crusade, which managed 2.4 million in one day in January last year.

Most of those 2.8 million sales will have come from North America and Europe, although Lich King benefited from the addition of Chile, Argentina and Russia to Blizzard's domain. Australasia and south-east Asia got the expansion a day or two later, and China's still waiting.

World of Warcraft has 11 million players worldwide now, versus the 8 million it had when Burning Crusade launched - so in terms of sell-through to subscribers, Lich King performed fractionally less well than its predecessor.

The 3.5 million copies Burning Crusade sold in its first month will be the next of its own records Blizzard is looking to beat. One analyst has predicted that Lich King could net 5 million in the same period, according to Gamasutra.

 

And how many copies were bought by Gold farmers?

less than 1% I would imagine. just like WAR,AOC and others.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by coffee

the statment clearly states it does not include china, so that 2.8million to a player base of about 4 million EU+US players in 24 hours.

TBC sold 2.4million to a base of 3.6 million EU+US players

so its aboutt he same.

 

When did Wow lose two million players in NA/Euro?

Last time I checked WoW had near six million NA/Euro players. (something like 5.5 million+)

These sub numbers seem off to me.

Anyway once blizzard puts out an official report of 12 million players buying the Xpac then I will believe they have that many.

Anyone know how many copies of TBC sold? did it surpass the 12 million mark? yeah probably not.

the last time we had offical western figures was january 2008 http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080122.html 4.5million EU+US subs.
 

the statment clearly states it does not include china, so thats 2.8million to a player base of about 4 million EU+US players in 24 hours.

TBC sold 2.4million in 24 hours and 3.6million in 1 month to a base of 3.8 million EU+US players

so its about the same.

so clear things up WRATH is not avaliable in china yet, just as TBC was not at launch. be a few months yet.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by Greyhooff

The lake might as well be instances, the other zones are questing areas, lake is just a PVP area, it's a BG, nothing more

I've seen all the bosses in WOTLK, all of the good guilds have already cleared all the content, now the 2nd tier guilds are clearing it also :)

Next week the mouth-breathers and casual raiders will clear it all also. Epics for everyone who can faceroll through easymode PVE made for kids :)

Oh and if you don't need me in WoW that's fine. I used to be a hardcore raider who loved WoW PVE. Now I think it's easymode garbage made for kids :)

 

I see you decided to ignore my comments, 1 guild has completed the content as they played it beta for 6months, no other guild has, there will be some guild running 10man naxx maybe even 25man but thats it. Again you have not played wrath so your not educated enough to comment.  I have played WAR and what a dissapointment that was in all areas.

 

No one made it into Altdorf Palace on that first Altdorf siege, and no one killed Karl Franz. Also, Lost Vale has harder PVE bosses than anything in WOTLK

And you're wrong - all the good guilds are clearing WOTLK already, it's easy mode. My old server is Kazzak and here are some comments from the progression thread there :

 

 

* 29. Re: Kazzak Raid Progression 18/11/2008 19:31:47 PST

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We killed KT and Sarth aswell, but whatever at this list for lol-content.

I see noone really bothered to post it even.

 

Agreed, one-shotting Kel'thuzad is not to cool.
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* 30. Re: Kazzak Raid Progression 18/11/2008 22:56:44 PST

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ye its a total walkover i was there in my gear allmost offensive to the old naxx.
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10man or 25man? does not say. 

On my server GrimBatol (very old hi-pop server) , about 3 25man raid groups are going through NAXX (naxx being a starter raid BTW) no one has cleared it yet, only 1 guild killed 25man Sartharion , no guild has done 25man Malygos.

Theres more sucess in 10man versions but again only about 6 guilds doing this content.

These are the elite raid guilds, many of whom played on beta for months learning these bosses or looked up guides on the net.

Your acting like these players have never seen these bosses or played these bosses prior to Wrath being released, thats not true they were accessable in beta for months, videos being made, guides being wirtten and players experiencing it.

And you cant compare the tacked on tank'n'spank PvE raids in WAR to crafted scripted PvE raids in WoW.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

The lake might as well be instances, the other zones are questing areas, lake is just a PVP area, it's a BG, nothing more

I've seen all the bosses in WOTLK, all of the good guilds have already cleared all the content, now the 2nd tier guilds are clearing it also :)

Next week the mouth-breathers and casual raiders will clear it all also. Epics for everyone who can faceroll through easymode PVE made for kids :)

Oh and if you don't need me in WoW that's fine. I used to be a hardcore raider who loved WoW PVE. Now I think it's easymode garbage made for kids :)

I see you decided to ignore my comments, 1 guild has completed the content as they played it beta for 6months, no other guild has, there will be some guild running 10man naxx maybe even 25man but thats it. Again you have not played wrath so your not educated enough to comment.  I have played WAR and what a dissapointment that was in all areas.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Let's face it, ALL pve and raid WOTLK content was beaten by the best guild 2 days after release, and most of the top 50-100 guilds have now cleared all of it also. It will take 1 more week for most of the good raiding guilds to complete all of it - including malygos, full naxx 25 etc

LOL talk about making stuff up, 1 guild has completed the endgame stuff becuase they the most hardcore raid guild who... and wait for it.. played all the end game stuff in beta for 6 months, so all they did was skip all the content and power lvl to 80 then do what they have been doing in beta for 6months and beat the end games bosses.  NO OTHER GUILD HAS DONE THIS FACT!!!!

Then everyone and their granny who has never played a computer game will be able to kill Kelthuzad and Malygos. Sad but true, WoW is just dumb now.

WoW has been dumbed down so that anyone with a keyboard can complete it and get their epics. It's boring to know everyone has full epics and there's no variety, no sense of achievement.

There's simply no point to WoW any more. It's not fun, and it's too easy. It's pointless.

 

WAR may not be as polished, but it is more fun. I play with a good top-end guild, we are killing bosses in Lost Vale that are harder than any boss in WOTLK (order doesn't have repel)

Please play end game bosses in wrath before commenting.

And the mass PVP with zone control throughout the actual game map (rather than some instances lake BG aka AV2) is more fun than crappy arena duels and the same BGs again and again.

The lake is NOT instanced, again.. play Wrath before commenting on things.

I see a lot of people who have now completed WoW/WOTLK looking around saying "is that all there is?"

Again making stuff up is funny

I'm happy playing WAR :) Good, dont need you in WoW =D

I work in an IT call centre.. nothing more annoying that a know it all "I am an IT engineer why do I have to do this", what they have to realise is we have a process to go through, we cannot skip steps. 

GM was just doing his job, following the process, be nice to our GM's its not often we see em

Originally posted by Malvolentia

Level 80 in a couple days.

End content already beaten within a week

I saw my friend play the DK to 58.  Handout and handout.

This game is for the lowest common denominator with a lot of time on his hands.

all MMOs who have nolifers who aim to maxcap ASAP, WoW is no difference.  The players who max cap then have to sit on their ass for weeks waiting for normal players to catch up.

Just so you know endgame was completed by the most hardcore guild in WoW, the guild in question played all the end game bosses in beta for 4-6months so come release they simply helped each other power lvl to max cap in a few days greatly helped with the top end lvl 70 PVE raid gear from TBC.. it was then business as usual as they killed all end game bosses dozens of times in beta, they knew the fights.

It wil take heavy raid guilds atleast 6 months to get that far
Noraml raid guilds close to 9 months 

If you honesty think this is normal and they experienced all that wrath has to offer.. then.... pfft

As to DK's, the starting area is designed to teach you how to play the DK over 3 levels so yes it handout.. duh. But its super fun too.

I got wrath on launch day and I am only 20% in lvl72... with about 17 hours played.

Originally posted by Firebrawn

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One of the best guilds in the world has already cleared the new Naxx on heroic. Hardest PVE raid has already been beaten.

 

LOL!

 

I am definately sticking with WAR.

What your forgetting is they played Beta for 6 months, so by retail they knew all the fights, the hardest thing was powerleveling to 80, by grinding mobs and 5mans [they would of skipped 95% of the PvE content by doing this] .. the rest [raids] they had done a million times before.

This is a hardcore, wow 24/7, no job/life guild whoes goal was to use their vast beta experience and team play to complete the end game raids ASAP.

But this has already been pointed out in WoW forums. Dont get me started on lack of WAR endgame or that lvl 1 is the same as lvl 40 game play.

1300'ish on GrimBatol EU today at 6pm server time, Think thats the highest its ever been.  I kind of dont mind the 90min wait... which is odd.

Like the sauce, the best comes to those who wait =D