All Posts by whisperwynd

Disappointed ppl after buying into hype = Get back on your turnip truck, you need to exchange that cow for precious, magical beans.

Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie

Hey tater, I think you actually agree with us but just can't bring yourself to admit it. The whole argument is people who blind invite. You say we are rude for just declining a blind invite, but you seem to be defending the rudeness of the inviter. If I am not looking for a team and someone asks me to join thier team I will politely respond with "No ty". They well then usually say "ok".

As for duels....... Why would I accept a duel from someone 25 levels higher then I am?

Lol, I just love those. Ppl 20+ lvls higher wanting to duel you...they really need a morale boost, don't they?! :)

As for the blind invites, it depends if I'm flagged or not lfg. If I am, I'll join and ask the necessary questions. If I'm not, I'll decline, simple as that. No fuss, no muss. We all have different things that annoy us, but it's in the dealing of them that matter, not the event itself.  :P

 First off, when constructing a debate or argument, you take premises (article in question here) and form them in a logical progression as to paint a picture (the picture you're trying to express).

Second, you may or may not use analogies, as the OP did, to reinforce one or more of the aforementioned premises stated to 'cement' the point of view. All of this to bring it to conclusion.

Religion in those days had ultimate say in what transpired in society, it only got extricated from rule less than one hundred years ago.  Sorry, but it's fact, but it doesn't make the OP or you wrong in being religious, it just was.

As for the discussion about the article...I am for and against it. I hate seeing the powers that be decide for us what is 'good' for all, yet I also see too  many people not choosing for themselves, or their children, the proper choices (of course each's definition of what is moral or right notwithstanding) that they do need 'guidance' .

Though, I've rarely seen a kid not wanting something more when it's not 'allowed'  or restricted. :)

Originally posted by Kurush

Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

Obviously many different people play WoW. The reason we dog it's age group is because it has THE MOST IMMATURE COMMUNITY of any P2P MMORPG. It's disgusting to see the forum or general chat for that matter.

 

I'd disagree there.  The forums and general chat (even in the worst areas) aren't really that bad.  The forums are filled with annoying whining, but MMORPG.com is even worse in that regard.  No, if you want to see the true nonsense on WoW, that would be the trade channel.  Since it's the only channel shared among all the major cities, it has become the de facto spam channel.

I don't think the community as a whole is immature, though.  It's just that you can't avoid the vocal minority in WoW.  Somebody is always around to say something retarded.

Overall, I'd say every MMORPG population has their immature segment, though perhaps they take different forms.  There are a ton of twenty-somethings who take their raiding or PvP way too seriously in the hardcore MMORPG's.  Are they immature?  Most definitely.  Do they readily come across as immature?  Nah.  It's only when you push such players that they show their true colors.

Add to the fact that the vocal majority that spew inane banter are mainly from the immature segment, whereas the more mature players tend to play more and babble less.

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

Originally posted by whisperwynd

Who knows, maybe it's a younger sibling, or an offspring.  :P 

In either case, something just doesn't jive 

 

he could suffer from DID

I suffer from DID, but my second personality only shows up when my in-laws come for a visit.

Who knows, maybe it's a younger sibling, or an offspring.  :P 

In either case, something just doesn't jive 

Originally posted by vinzone

To whisper. Are you sure? here is another one of his posts

Originally posted by mxbx

Originally posted by RoseOfAion

In these days, it looks that this game going to deep fail.

Really does this game going wrong?

Does the servers empty or have a few users these days?

How many people play this game on same time?

 

Anybody inform me, then I thank you very much.

 

is game really Tabula Rasa? 

Fail at same time? 

How people play on going wrong? 

going tabula rasa for information???

thx

 

And sorry man but the game is not too hard maybe you're playing a class that is weak under lvl 10 (i.e. Bear Shaman) or maybe you are having trouble with the combat, such as attacking where there are shields up instead of where there are no shields.

lol  I didn't check that one, but i do remember reading this one..

Originally posted by mxbx

game 2 hard

h8 this game cus its sooooo hard is not fun

ALL THE MONSTERS ARE STRONGER THAN ME

DO U GET STRONGER AS U GET MORE POWERS?????

cus its not even fun to just die

lol Must be sarcasm, as I've read your posts before...and you're quite a bit more legible.

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by whisperwynd

 

lol, that was bad. I just remembered an old youtube clip of a leader discussing an onyxia raid and listing what to do and what the penalty was if instructions weren't followed. It was hilarious. 

 

Yeah, I play games to have fun and hate when people treat it like its life or death moment. Once they start getting all  drill sergeant like and treating people like crap because some mob that has some gear needs to be brought down or the world will end.... yeah, the fun is gone. Thats when my brain switches to prank/pissoff mode.

People who take a game too seriously to the point of having an aneurism should really just get up and walk away from the machine and re evaluate life a bit.

 I couldn't agree more. It IS a game after all, and should be treated as such. I doubt anyone enjoys being yelled at for not being what 'they' expect you to be. Or maybe it's a fetish that some do  enjoy?! 

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by whisperwynd

Or said raid leaders threatening to remove DKP for not following the plan. 

 

See, ours never did that. He would just start calling the raid group 'retards' and start screaming and talking down to everyone.

He threw this huge and I mean HUGE fit when raiding MC. We wiped on Rag because 3 people lost connection mid fight. He waited till they got back on and chewed everyone out. He basically stated that if we wiped again he was going to give up raiding and leave the guild (which our GL kept trying to talk him out of).

So after his 15 minute rant about how stupid we were and the possibility of him leave should another wipe happen, he ordered everyone to buff up. While buffing was going on, someone made a comment about having to log out soon. He treated the guy like a 5 yearold. By then I had had it with him, targeted a pet that lay dead near Rag and rezzed it, just as the raid leader (a warrior) was getting in position behind Rag. The pet attacked Rag, he killed it and went after our raid leader who died in 1 hit.

Everyone died soon after and all we heard over vent was our raid leader screaming something about us being useless (there was that hint of a quiver in his voice) so people pointed out he was the only one near Rag and caused the aggro. He logged off, we decided to give it one more go and took Rag down.

Soon after he left the guild, created his own raid guild, which failed, and ended up bouncing from guild to guild. Our raids went a lot smoother and if we wiped we would laugh about it.

lol, that was bad. I just remembered an old youtube clip of a leader discussing an onyxia raid and listing what to do and what the penalty was if instructions weren't followed. It was hilarious. 

Or said raid leaders threatening to remove DKP for not following the plan. 

Originally posted by Mordria

Originally posted by convict

Originally posted by fyerwall

Mordria, why is it you post a screenshot in EVERY post?

 

Well, if the game is no fun to play, might as well take pictures.

 

Who said it's not fun? You hand full of sad forum trolls that don't have anything better to do and have been just trying for the past few months (even before release) to spread negative hype?

How's that workin for ya by the way? lol

I'm having a great time playing the game, which is why I haven't been posting here as much.

Oh here's another :p

Well I for one, Mordria, enjoy the pics ;)

Pleasing to the eyes..no flames or name calling 

Thanks Ghost12 and Deadlymage, I haven't laughed so much in a while. That back and forth argument is a classic.

The OP doesn't say he likes F2P better, but that since he plays AoC, will tolerate a game that's less of an Mmorpg than some F2Ps are. It's a standard that some of us want for mmo's, but if the game is good enough, will be tolerated as long as it entertains us.

"A point of view can be educated or uneducated, you know why an argument can be brought to a logical conclusion withou being true? Because sometimes, there is not only one truth."

  An argument does not need a truth to be brought to a logical conclusion, so long as the premises (what you term as arguments) make sense in the course of the debate. You can outright lie for your premises, but so long as they link to one another and bring a coherence to the argument, your conclusion will be logical, if not factual.

''f you decide to express your judgement formed in your mind you will need arguments to support your judgement, if without arguments you think you are right only because it is in your mind.. well, you fell on it again.'' - your words

  By saying 'if something" to someone then say "you fell on it again" speaking of the ego thing, then you are degrading his way of thinking, because you associate him to that negative label YOU brought up. Jjust because you don't think he has any truthful premises to back up what he says, does not make his opinion any less valid to him. You mistake truth for logic and try to inject your truth to any comments you deem illogical. Your "argument" had a judgment to it, not a conclusion. You might think they are the same but they are not. Why else would there be two words?

 This isn't a flame or an assault, just an interjection of another point of view . You may also not agree with my argument, but it is there nonetheless also.

Originally posted by Umbral

FiresealMMO

Well well, I used the NA ego cult term, so I think you are talking about me...

How do you think the rest of the world see the US and NA posture?

You do realized I said it happens in South America too, right? I didnt say everyone in US and NA is lost in his ego...but yes, the cult is real.

 

See, an opinion is a point of view, if you think an opinion is “you are right and the rest is lesser and is wrong”, sorry, you just fell in this ego cult thing that seems to ofend you.

If you decide to express your judgement formed in your mind you will need arguments to support your judgement, if without arguments you think you are right only because it is in your mind.. well, you fell on it again.

 

Just curious, how I tried to degrede anyone?

My ego is the biggest here only because you just didnt understand what I said?

To be honest, I just think you are confused.

As for opinion, you can have an uneducated pov, it doesn't necessitate structure or even valid premises..it just makes your conclusion extremely weak. Being judgmental is a derogatory remark used for those that cast a verdict over someone/something without forethought or understanding, they rarely use valid arguments.  Also, an argument may be brought to a logical conclusion without it being true, truth and logic don't always accompany one another, since truth is a perspective on which to base opinion and judgment.

Finally, I wonder if you take too much pleasure in your dissection of people's views...not implying such, just an observation of several of your posts. Not implying such, just an observation of several of your posts.

As for the topic at hand, i have no comment save that experience differ from person to person, and how or what makes you enjoy a game should be your discretion only.

Originally posted by gath

 

Originally posted by deviliscious

lol!  The tip at my favorite resteraunt is usually $200 .. I would feel like i was leaving a bad tip if I donated that lol...  i wouldn;t think that you could do much with $100 at all really, and giving the game a true investment would ensure that the game could be a better quality. I would think the lower donations would not be of much help at all.

Hmm... ok... just to make it clear... your "$" means US Dollars...?

 

And you are not the heir of some multimillionaire old guy, right?

And those outings are extremely rare. If you are tipping in USD, then please understand how we poor folk have to budget our monies.

Originally posted by Downsy

I would comment, but I find that almost anytime I discover someone being immature ingame and point it out, shortly there after said person informs me they are six foot five, two hundred and eighty pounds, and black belts in multiple martial arts.

And I just can't take that risk!

 

  lol Anonymity is a useful defense for arguing. I'm sure a high % of players now playing mmo's are John Cenas clones with the skill of UFC's Rampage. They work out as they pwn you one handed.

Originally posted by gath

 

Originally posted by Apocamentus

You origionaly said that religion and morality had nothing to do with eachother, and with that quote you seem to imply that they do and are therefore contradicting yourself.

Unless you think i said that religious people ARE immoral , i have no idea why you would say the above.

 

I trying to say that a person being religious (lets assume they all belive in God) has nothing to do with right/wrong. You will find bad people that are religious, and you will find atheist peope that only do good.

Good/Bad - Right/Wrong has nothing to do with religion.

You can be seriously chastised by the church and community if you don't follow what they say...because, and this is the kicker, right and wrong are totally subjective. THEY decide what's right or what's wrong, they decide what's good ro bad. Logic is thrown out the window in lieu of their boxed in views of how they should act.

But again, you're right about the general good/right, you may be religious and still have your own view on right and wrong. With all the different religions out there, you'd think there'd be more joy in the world...but alas, tolerance isn't a part of their teaching (not to those of different faith anyway).

Originally posted by deviliscious

LOL! I have donated to pbs .. you have a problem with that?

Not at all! Must be nice to be able to throw 10k around for donations...could I have a donation then? Plz?

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by aleos

I can admit that i donated 60 bucks to Dark and light because honestly the game just looked amazingly sick but then after playing it upon release from changing it from beta the game was a huge dissapointment and i waisted 60 bucks.

I think some people have the wrong impression to what exactly is conisered a "donation" in different social circles. $60 is a tip .. $10,000 or more is a donation.. at least where I come from . lol

  LOL Then donate to a PBS station you..they would simply ADORE you!!!