All Posts by whisperwynd

I agree some of the rants against  WAR are ridiculous, as they  were for AoC and will be for future mmo's...it's the way of the world. Which is better, faster, bigger, easier?

That's how we are, and while it may not be fair to compare a new release with an established best seller, it is nonetheless what must done for the bar to be raised to the next level.

It's the way of industry, commerce, and society to be the best....and the only way to BE the best is to BEAT the best.

I don't play WoW anymore, as I have had my fill. I do however play WAR for the moment, and it's entertaining. For the moment. That's what life is..moments. And they invariably get compared to the last ones we had.

Those who are the senseless and illogical, not the labeled for debasement, ' fanbois' or 'trolls ' are just those that never got out of the  "My father can beat up your father" phase, and can't accept change.

It will happen no matter what, and those that are up to the challenge will be recognized...whether they succeed or not, only time will tell.

 I haven't had any major issues with the game as of yet either, and I've been playing a week now.

My system is mediocre, nvidia 7950 GT OC, 2 gigs of DDRII ram, and an intel 2.8 dual core...

I have good fps (25-45) even in RvR, and run it at a res of 1768 X 962 as I run it on my HDTV.

Not blindly defending it, I just don't have those issues mentioned.

What problems are you referring to? Those? I think they'll always be there in one form or another.  If you enjoyed WoW and aren't tired of playing in view of the changes Blizz will be making, then I say try it. If you like it, then it'll be worth it.

If you are not sure you'll like it, wait a bit to see for yourself the changes made and whether you think you'll enjoy them then.

Worst thing to do in any situation is rush a to decison without information.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by donjn

Now I am sad.

I only played my Bear Shaman to lvl 31. In all my years as a gamer, the Bear Shaman is without a doubt my favorite class.I loved the graphics. I loved the performance. I loved the European feel of the game like the Gothic series. I loved the combat, the quests everything else. The only issue I had was the 4k lag spikes. Are these still around?

I really liked this game.
Then people started leaving, so I did too.

I watched Funcom stocks and wanted them to fail. Why? Why would I want this?

Now I am playing Warhammer. I have left WoW in the dust. Tried Ryzom for a week and enjoyed it, but after a while I logged on and said, "what next"? Warhammer is an amazing game with some brutal performance issues that unless fixed, I will not re-subscribe.

So why did I leave AoC? Was it a wrong decision? Was I a lemming? I mean, if you are enjoying something, who cares what people think? This new patch looks amazing..

Should I think about coming back?

 

Play what you want. As long as you are having fun in the way you want to have fun you should stay.

Remember, not everyone is going to like AOC.

Heck, I played Lineage 2 for almost 5 years, not the #1 subscribed to mmo in the west and I loved it despite what others felt about it.

I totally agree, and don't be swayed by the likes of Bodypass, or anyone else.

In the end, it's your money, and getting your money's worth should only be your concern..no one else's.

As for the population...only let it concern you when you are no longer enjoying yourself ingame. Until then, don't worry about anything written or said (negatively), especially here.

Why worry about things you have no control over? The only equation you should use is

money spent=enjoyment?

If yes; continue

If no; discontinue

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by whisperwynd

The points made are valid, to the poster, and I've no problem with them. The problem I see is still the old "Can't compare to WoW" crap that's  representative of the same love/hate between different mmo players and their respective choices.

You prefer WoW to WAR? Fine, by all means stay there and enjoy yourselves. Just don't say it's better because you hated WAR.  They aren't in the same genre pf gameplay. WoW's PvP isn't bad to some, but it isn't what alot of PvPers want, so they prefer WAR for their PvP...Who cares?!

I've played WoW, now am playing WAR because it is different...will I play  WAR in a year's time? Don't know, but it's not because of someone's lame attempt of comparing it to WoW, or LOTRO that will stop me. I don't play WoW anymore because it got boring for me. FOR ME. Never will I say it's a boring game. Not the same thing, only ignorant rants say otherwise.

Why does anyone start playing, and PAYING for a new game if they're into another? What's the reasoning? To try it only to 'prove' their other game is better? Was it really to try something new? Would you have left your other game had it been to your liking? If not, then you should just chalk it up as an experience and move on.

If you really hated it, without knowing what you were getting into, then you wasted your money on it, with a bad after-taste in your mouth, and the only one to blame is yourself.  (Not directed at anyone in particular)

I like some of the drama on these forums, but this constant squabble of which game is better is really pathetic. Play your game and let the other guy worry about where he's spending his 15$/month on.

 

The answer is very simple really.

WAR does NOT meet the standards set out by Blizzard 4 years ago AND upgraded 2 years ago.

If you do not want to play with the present day standards . OK np, fine by me, but WAR lacks about everyhting Wow (and other MMORPG's) even have standard.

Everyone will and can be the judge, but the qualtiy differences are SOOO huge and just can't be neglected.

Go and have a look at HOW Bliizard tackled the fighting animations and then look at War. In the end the buying public will be the judge. And there a dozens and dozens of these kind of polishment differences.

If YOU want to pay for far less in WAR and its end game ... NP It is YOUR money.

Thank you for that, it IS my money and I will spend it how I see fit.

I can 'neglect' the anomalies just fine, since I know  WAR just released and time will smooth out these things, just like Blizz did four years ago. If they don't...I still enjoyed myself enough to make it worth the money I spent.

I have played WoW since release, on and off  to about a month ago. I've had enough, and won't bother getting into it.  Won't go back. End of story. I don't, nor will I ever bash WoW, since it has provided me with such a long period of enjoyment, but like everything...it has had its time with me.

We can argree to disagree, and I hope you'll find peace someday, as you seem to be a little agitated for some reason...

I totally agree with Leerix on his post, every opinion one makes is always based on past experience and will be compared to it.

I've played WoW from launch til about a month after BC, I liked it, but am no longer playing it because I had enough of it. Do I hate it? No. Will I tell anyone not to play it? Of course not, you should always check it out yourself to see if it's for you.

As for the community, I've realised that maybe there is alot of immaturity to be seen from WoW, unfortunately it's more from vocal one than those that remain silent. Also, given the huge playerbase, you'll obviously get alot more that are vocal, even if the % is the same compared to another game.

It's obviously too much to ask to have open minded views and let ppl play what they want without condescending remarks of their opinions on the game. That is where the problem is, THAT is where the immaturity lies. Ego is a big thing, and on something as anonymous as an online game...well, it gets downright bloated..pardon my french  .

The points made are valid, to the poster, and I've no problem with them. The problem I see is still the old "Can't compare to WoW" crap that's  representative of the same love/hate between different mmo players and their respective choices.

You prefer WoW to WAR? Fine, by all means stay there and enjoy yourselves. Just don't say it's better because you hated WAR.  They aren't in the same genre pf gameplay. WoW's PvP isn't bad to some, but it isn't what alot of PvPers want, so they prefer WAR for their PvP...Who cares?!

I've played WoW, now am playing WAR because it is different...will I play  WAR in a year's time? Don't know, but it's not because of someone's lame attempt of comparing it to WoW, or LOTRO that will stop me. I don't play WoW anymore because it got boring for me. FOR ME. Never will I say it's a boring game. Not the same thing, only ignorant rants say otherwise.

Why does anyone start playing, and PAYING for a new game if they're into another? What's the reasoning? To try it only to 'prove' their other game is better? Was it really to try something new? Would you have left your other game had it been to your liking? If not, then you should just chalk it up as an experience and move on.

If you really hated it, without knowing what you were getting into, then you wasted your money on it, with a bad after-taste in your mouth, and the only one to blame is yourself.  (Not directed at anyone in particular)

I like some of the drama on these forums, but this constant squabble of which game is better is really pathetic. Play your game and let the other guy worry about where he's spending his 15$/month on.

Originally posted by zmortis

Originally posted by whisperwynd

 

 

My analogy was neither correct or incorrect.  There was no right or wrong to it, only a value judgement about whether it illustrated my point or not. 

 

Not to rain on your parade, but if your 'analogies' are neither correct nor incorrect...why bother making a new one?  Right or wrong, I agree don't matter, but making an analogy is in essence trying to make a parallel to your previous point or opinion and therefor MUST be correct for your debate to progress.

Also, your second analogy...with kids is also irrelevent since you're talking schoolyard politics, and I know you can't compare that kind of behavioral system with trying to establish a mature environment. Kids always act out in extremes, same with some adults (though you know they are immature), and this whole "My dad's cooler than dad.." in all of the variations is very simple and childish.

I have no qualm with what you like or dislike, I play WAR, and I like it. I just brought the point that you can't make sense of the idiocyncracies of some of these extreme posts, as reason and logic don't apply.

You can't expect ppl to all be civilized in a genre that also caters to kids (videogames) and expect mature, sensible discussions on a public, anonymous, and free website...even if they different sections for each mmo. It's not realistic.

Hope THIS helps.

 

Let me use an example outside of the gaming community to emphasize my point.  If poster A who loves Honda Motorcycles goes onto a forum dedicated to Harley Davidson Motorcycles, and claims "you are all a bunch of stupid Fanbois, it's objectively true the only good motorcycles are Honda Motorcycles, because they are water cooled, and use the latest engine designs.  You're all laughable because Harley Davidson Motorcycles obviously suck, their engine design is the same basic one from 40 years ago, they are still air cooled, they are too loud, and the engine vibrates the frame too much at high RPMs,  thus obviously Harley Davidson Motorcycles are inferior.  You all suxors!" 

Do you think the Harley Davidson forum member B should view him as someone providing constructive criticism that is going to improve the whole Harley Davidson loving community, and welcome him with open arms?  Isn't it more likely that the Honda fan is going to be considered a troll who is trying to start a fight? 

Person B cares because someone has come onto his virtual front lawn (the forum for his hobby) and dropped his trousers to take a dump.  Then when Poster A wants to claim it was a public service of providing fertilzer, and he should be appreciated for the effort.  It just comes across as a ridiculous statement.  I am not saying that constructive criticism is unwelcome, but the pot shots at forum posters who like a game, and the very childish "my game is better than your game" seem like pointless activities to me.  I'm saying this across the board, not just to defend the WAR forums. It may be a failing on my part, but I just don't get why any of it matters so much to poster A to make an ass of himself to begin with. 

I hope this helps.

Your analogy is incorrect as far as showing what you're trying to say, though I know what you mean.

You can't equate a dedicated site for one thing out there to a section of a forum for a game here on Mmorpg. This site is dedicated to the whole mmo genre, not a specific game.

If you had used a general motorcycle forum site, then your point is parallel. Also look at your demographics for age group, I seriously doubt you'll find the same range of lower aged members in the Harley Davidson forums as you would in videogames. That's just common sense.

I do agree that, if you like what you play, and even come here to discuss your pov, you can recognize those that are fair and those that just like to get a rise out of others.

If you want to argue, just make sure it's out of fun, and not take it seriously. You hate trolls? Have fun with them...fanbois? have fun with them too, however you find it funny. Never take the argument seriously or you'll always fight a losing battle. No matter what you quote or however logical (to you) you make your posts, they'll believe what want, and isn't that what we all are entitled to?!

<bows and leaves the podium>

Ahh, so it's buddy keys you'd like?!  Gotcha 

Wish I could help, sorry.

I hate to bring this up, but there so many player reviews on here to make you go dizzy...why not read them. You know all you're gonna get here is another troll/flamefest.

GL though

May I know what server you are on?  Considering I see alot of threads posting to the contrary, I'd like to know both so when I decide to play, I'll know which to roll on as the underdog. 

Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by whisperwynd

That's the whole point...every Mmo I've played, or read about have problems. ..Every one of them, it's inevitable.

It's also why I find it useless for some threads like these by obvious trolls bashing the competition. Just play your damned game and leave us be.

Like I said, I'm all for valid complaints and such, as long as it's personal and sharing his/her frustration or pov in a discussion. This isn't a discussion, it's a degrading, mud slinging campaign without conclusion nor merit.

 

 

Alright now you are going too fare... Did you read any of that stuff. Losing your characters, losing your stuff, having reset your characters to lvl 1, crash to desktop every 5 min...?? I think the people that experience this is not entirely in agreement with you on how insignificant this is.

I read it, but I could bring you a crap load of threads like these..

http://www.bloodofcrom.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2741

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/181042 (nice list of bugs..Nadia helps but still there)

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/183226 (Great CS here huh?)

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/183363

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/182701 (more than 1 of these).

Can you see where I'm getting at? I can bring up a crap load of complaints and bugs for any game, yours as well my friend. I know you'll be defending these or already have somewhere, but that's not the issue...

You bring this up only to troll WAR so that you can feel better about whatever your little self-servicing mind thinks is good. If you want, I'll post even more problems, and we all know how many there are of those for AoC, I'd they outnumber WAR.

I go too far??? I'm sure all of these ppl would find how insignificant your 'love' of AoC is to them..so just don't even bother.

Very sad indeed...

To add to World of Darkness, there'll be  Dark Eden and umm...Buffy: The vampire slayer...

That's the whole point...every Mmo I've played, or read about have problems. ..Every one of them, it's inevitable.

It's also why I find it useless for some threads like these by obvious trolls bashing the competition. Just play your damned game and leave us be.

Like I said, I'm all for valid complaints and such, as long as it's personal and sharing his/her frustration or pov in a discussion. This isn't a discussion, it's a degrading, mud slinging campaign without conclusion nor merit.

No, but you can be sure the WoW fanbois will come out by the droves and call them down all the same.

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by whisperwynd

 I don't know which path WAR will take, I haven't tried it yet.

I just have a difficult time trying to inform myself when these self-professed preachers for one game have to try and bring any random thing to bolster their sermon. Yes, random. It's really easy to find fodder..of any kind, to prove a troll's or fanboi's pov.

It's just a shame little real dialogue and commen sense are used in the discussion.

 

 

again, if war had official forums, you would have the company moderating forums and you'd be able to find good information easily.

 

wait for 6 months and see what happens with the game.  if it goes to server mergers and those fewer servers all have high populations... maybe and maybe not -- it'll be good.

What on earth are you talking about?  6 months and server mergers to get high population?  Last time I logged on (15 hours ago), I have to wait on every server destro side (oceanic servers for me).  I have to wait 22 min to get into Ironclaw.  The servers are almost always full for destro during the peak hours (oceanic people) even the order side is listed as high (no queuing time tho).

Why do they need to merge, unless you are forecast mass cancellation of sub after the first month.

He's making a comparison to AoC, with its talk of mergers. It's always wise to "wait and see" before byuing something of you're the skeptical kind, not the "OOHH shiny bauble..must have!" type of person.

Not to say you're of the latter, and maybe he doesn't like WAR, but his comment on mergers will be a good indication of ppl not playing anymore. You never know what the future will hold, no matter how emphatic someone is about it.

Originally posted by AstralGeth

Originally posted by whisperwynd

Complaining is fine, to a point...but always bringing crap like this by an obvious AoC fanboi has but one purpose....to TROLL.

It pisses me off...and I don't even play WAR!!!

Was the "obvious AoC fanboi troll" a jab at me? 

Because I've never posted about AoC, never played it and never had an interest in playing it. 

No, no Astral, it was all pointed to Orionman. 

I agree. If I wereto  list, out of the 7800+ threads in the AoC section just here, I'm sure there'd a helluva lot more than 100.

In any case, he has definitely thrown me off ever returning to AoC, in fear of running into him and wanting to PK all the damn time.