All Posts by nikoliath

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Aethios

Originally posted by strategy

Crazy. Just plain crazy and a first in the MMORPG field, because these world changes arre happening in full adventure lines (not at a beginning or intro or not in between a temporarely shifting of a quest).

 

It's absolutely NOT a "first in the MMORPG field."

In Runescape, phasing is used on farming plots so that each plot can be used by every player. You see only the crops that you have planted yourself.

They also have dozens of quests where mobs or objects appear/disappear based on events happening through the storyline (and most of their quests are considerably longer than Blizzard's).

Plus, when they do phasing, you can still see other players and they can still see you, which in some cases means your friends can help you with quests or activities they have already completed.

When Blizzard can allow players to change servers at will (and for free), have phased content that still allows you to see and play with your friends, and use phasing to its full extent (not just where it's convenient for them) then you can talk about "crazy." Right now it's just dabbling with technology.

 

The OP made me laugh too. Appearently WoW is the only game he played.

LOTRO also used this kind of phasing technique (unfortunately not on all, but a lot).

WAR has this kind of phasing as well. Also unfortunately not everywhere, but still.

So Blizzard isn't the first with this.

Cheers

I do not recall phasing in LOTRO, although i dint play too far into it, so please remind me. The first 5 levels were not phased.

And to the person banging on about CoX and it's 3d world thing.. He didnt simply mean that you can fly in wow he means that the Outland region is a full 3D enviroment that is seemingly seemless, you can fly from Hellfire to Netherstorm if you wish. In Cox   everything is hard zoned with a barrier and portal.

 ahhh nothing like reading some true haters hate. 

To the OP, it's good stuff and makes for some nice game play. i.e the DK starting zone, and I dare say blizz will work well with it. 

Blizzard have IMO blown Mythic and a few others out of the water with WotLK. I quit WAR after it become devoid of players and devoid of any reason to exist.

To the few hate filled bile spewers,  --- falling, sky, is.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by woody1974

Originally posted by googajoob7

i play on wow oh 3 european servers and although i m enjoying the lich king  a lot . i m noticing there does nt appear to be the same influx of new blood that happened around the release of the burning crusade . i think perhaps its because theres only the death knight which starts at 55 and no new races for people to start from level one perhaps . also maybe we ll see a lot of new players around christmas . i m wondering if anyone else has noticed this ? 

 

This is because wotlk is not living up to all the hype...Ive said this before and ill say it again, ive been in Best Buy, Wal Mart, Gamestop, and a few other lesser known for selling pc software stores and I have seen boxes upon boxes of this expansion sitting on tables and end shelves collecting dust...In fact at Best Buy this week I noticed an employee boxing back up some copies of wotlk, now that could mean 1 or 2 things...they are making shelve space for other games or they are moving merchandise off the floor that isn't selling...wotlk brought nothing new to the table cept a new class and some refurbished NPC's, Quests and graphics..Many of my friends that have played it just for the PvP and sieging stated that it was the worse thing they have ever experienced, but they like a few others won't leave so quickly because of time invested....

There are people already level 80 a week or so into release already...What does that tell you? easy, no challenge and now they get to sit around another 3 years..Now you would think with all the money blizzard makes off software and merchandise that in 3 years of developement that there would be more of a challenge...Reminds me of the EQ days....Bring out expansions every now and then to keep people happy while you pour money into other games...

IMO WOW has reached its peak and sometime in 2009 when other MMO's start appearing and other MMO's improve, people will eventually stop subscribing, not everyone, but that fabricated 12 mil number will go on a decline..Its evident in most of the Forums on this and other sites that people are disappointed and are losing intrest..

I know some people think that numbers will improve during Xmas, I would say don't hold your breath

 

Numbers improving?   Wrath sold 2.8M copies in the FIRST DAY and is still the #1 PC game on any chart.    People keep saying how 'bored' wow players will be.. but the fact is there were 2.8M people who were so bored with WOW that they couldn't wait to get more of that boring game.   The same thing could have been said back when BC was released "omg. it's boring, just more of the same"... yet througout the life of BC, WOW kept breaking new subscriber records.  People have been saying that WOW would peak for the past 3 years, and it still hasn't stopped growing.

I honestly don't know what game you are thinking about in 2009 that is going to hurt WOW (please give an example).  WOW actually GREW in subscribers during the launch of AOC and Warhammer.. there are no games coming out in 2009 with any where near the marketing budgets as those two games.

Oh, and if you think Warhammer or AOC is going to be reborn and compete.  Take a look here at who is #1 (wrath) and who is not even in the top 100 (warhammer and AOC).  Even the original WOW is #17 this week, which means a ton more new players are joining WOW then are joining aoc or warhammer

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/229575/ref=pd_ts_vg_nav

Your exact post is exactly what someone could have said when BC was launched, yet the game has grown by nearly 4M people since then.

QFT, woody1974 is smoking something 

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by fugue14

 

Whooo feared 3 times in a row. Pvp consists of trying to break the 15 forms of bullshit that the enemy throws at you.  At least aoc gave you immunity to bullshit that's already been cast at you. I don't know but pvp seems more fun when both the players aren't incapacitated for 75% of the fight. Hopefully darkfall isn't "stunlock" online.

 

What a bullshit statement by someone who obviously never played the game, do some more research on diminishing returns next time before trolling like a lunatic.

Yeah Darkfall and Duke Nukem Forever are gonna be the best games out there .

 

 The current trend in PvP in MMOS seems to be root / stun / fear. I think any mechanic that removes control of your character long enough to be killed is pretty lame.

Originally posted by ghaiana

Any time I play a MMO where I have to kill 50 wolves to get 2 ears, War feels like a relief to me. I read the quest, I do the quest (and I only need 2 wolves to get 2 ears)

hmm  alot of 1 eared wolves running around 

Originally posted by Ixnatifual

Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US.

WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.

Jeepers creepers.... I have to say this utter nonsense, sorry. WAR fails on every comparison with WOW in my opinion. WAR is ok, as games go, but it has some fundamental design flaws. WAR is sloppy and clumsy, it may get polish as things progress but time will tell.

Steadily dwindling? Really? WotLK hit and on my Eu server the queue times hit 30mins ( 600 people ) until they put in transfers to cope with it.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

I look at the current topics on this fourm and see

War = AoC2
WAR is to repetitive.
I'm sadly disappointed
WAR is lacking in the gear department..
Bored Game
 

as topics, all complaining about one thing or another.

 

The simple answer to all these threads is

"If you dont like the game then move on"

There are over 39 released games listed on the left hand side of this site and a few more to boot, on the games drop down box.

If you dont like WAR go and try one of the others listed.

 

Ok you were expecting big things and were disappointed, so what, get over it, it is your own fault building up your expectations.

WAR has not been out very long and needs tweaking etc, just like any other MMO released. If you dont know this then you know nothing about MMOS.

 

To you think we really want to hear why "you" as an individual do not like the game?

WAR is what it is and if you dont like then tough, I wish you luck in find the ultimate MMO, i doubt you will ever find it, but good luck anyways.

 

 

I'm going to cantradict myself in part here;

The reason some people post these negative threads is simply to express, to those who would listen, their disappointment with a game, WAR in this case. Some people just bitch, endlessly, about a given game which I do not think is good.

I too have canceled my sub and picked up WoW again. Why? Simple, many people have listed the reasons already but some of my own reasons were scenario grind, lack of character itemization - attack of the clones - and lastly an ever decreasing population ( EU servers ).

is WAR a duffer of a game? No. But it will require some reworking to attract the masses. Meanwhile Blizzard have excelled themselves with WotLK. Burning Crusade was good to Meh, but this is brilliant. For once I can see some real love, thought and importantly polish gone into an MMO, albeit an expansion. Even the new BG complete with drivable tanks feels more seige like than WAR's open RVR content.

I dare say I will return one day, as I do like to swap about between MMO's. I hope they do well.

Originally posted by TenSpotting

They should of made it so that only a specific amount of people on each server could become one.

Like say only 500 of them on each world.

what a stupid idea that is. Sooo many issues with that I will not list them.

As said, it was going to happen, they are new and fun ~ who wouldn't want to try one? In time their numbers will dwindle, esp with northrend awaiting anyone with some 70's to lvl. I do not see it as a problem.

Originally posted by Littcoz

"Destruction Overpowered"  This is the biggest bunch of crap I have read on these forums....

I play destruction and scenerios almost exclusively leveling two peeps in thier 30's now and the destruction win ratio is about 40 percent overall.  I sometimes go two nights in a row 30 scenerios never win one..............I have no idea what you Order peeps are taling about.

The facts:

Order Iron Breaker is the best tank in the game right now.  Unkillable and the knock back is way OP compaired to the rest.

Order Bright wizard, these guys are so overpowered for a mage.  No one can deny that.   I am now seeing them even leading the charge.  Compared to my Sorc I can't even cast 3 times against one before I am dead.  The bright wizard is far and above any other class in the game.

Order usually has at least 4-5 healers in every scenerio vs the 1 healer on the Destruction side.  And forget about a rez if you play Destruction, I have only ever been rezzed twice.  So most Destruction players spend thier time running back to the fight.

Order comes in every scenerio with this team usually:  5 healers, 3 tanks, 5 Bright Wizards, and  2 Witch Hunters.  Unbeatable.

If order loses its usually because the scenerio player numbers were not balanced.

Anyone dissagree?

Errr? None of these are FACTS, just your own biased and wrong opinion.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by vardar

This kind of news is very disturbing, for the  players and for Blizzard. You would never ever see or hear this kind of news coming from games like EQ, hell no!!, Just proves how downgraded games are now a days. I dont care if these guys are world #1 or not, the material that Blizzard put out is not worth the money, like i said before, its the same content as the original WoW. Thx for these guys for proving that this expansion is not worth it.

 

So you have not played WoW:WOTLK yet feel your entitled to pass judgment on it because you read some place some 1 decided to bypass the quests, dungeons and content and just grind mobs for 64 hours to be the first to 80.

What you read is the exception and not the rule, I Have played abour 10-12 hours id say since thursday and I only dinged 70 today, doing the odd dungeon run and plently of questing (got my 1500 quest achievemnt too).

 

Yeah, you gotta love this stupid kind of post.  First of all, not posting from your OWN experience, secondly, posting an extremist's view that isn't even your own, because you, yourself, haven't experienced ANYthing related to said topic.  Pfffft.

Someone who made it to 80 already, DEFINITELY rushed with nothing more in mind that to just "ding 80" period.  They did not READ one quest, they did not level any professions, run any raids, and it's highly unlikely they ran any dungeons.  That has got to be the most IDIOTIC way to judge a game EVER.

I have six level 70s, I play for 4-6 hours a day, 10 on weekends, and I don't have ONE level 71 yet.  I did, however, make a deathknight that has gained 3 levels, and began (BEGAN, I said) leveling all of my professions and skills.  I have lvl 375 crafters of almost every profession, so as you can imagine, this might all take more than a couple of days.

Sure, if you just take one level 70 and grind like a lunatic, with nothing in mind but to ding 80, you might be able to do it in 68 hours of NON STOP play, BUT....how much fun is that really going to be?  Funny thing is.....the people who are doing this are the VERY ONES who bitch about "grinding" and yet....they are CHOOSING to make the game a grind.

WTF ever happened to the ROLEPLAYING aspect of MMOs??  It's not MEANT to be an idiot solo-player grinding their way through levels mindlessly.  You have to actually MAKE it that.  So the people that are pissin' and whinin' about it that DO that, should just STFU already about it, since they are CHOOSING to play like morons.

 

GAWWWWD.

yup yup yup

Originally posted by skydragonren

Guess I will step in and throw some things out there on the new expansion as it had me cancel WAR in about 3.5 seconds.

Everything Pappy said about the DK is pretty much spot on. He is right about it being to much to explain really so I will add a little to his post.

Starting as a Death Knight.

You will start in the Necropolis right next to the lich king as you begin your journey as a Death Knight. What pappy was referring to as his pluses are just that, just imagine half the work you would have to put in leveling a character already done for you. You have full bags, full set of starter gear, and the things you will need you will pick up on your way through your Death Knight training.

Your going to start out doing the bidding of the Lich King, on a series of quest that are not only designed to increase your power with each step, but also ground you with a solid basis and understanding of your class. Before you finish the DK series of quest, you will have all your solid skills, enough talent points to almost finish out a tree, and your mount.

 

What I found MOST intriguing about this new phase of WoW, is for once in the history of playing this game, by god I REALLY wanted to read the quest, I really wanted to get involved in the next phase of my characters evolution. Every single thing about the DK starter area was amazing and polished. You will do around 50 quest before you complete this DK training. In this time you will do the following:

Learn about the History of the Lich King, Morgaine, and the Ash Bringer.

Siege a city using a Frost Wyrm dragon.

Complete 1 chain for each set of your plate armor, which looks bad ass by the way.

Learn to rune carve your weapon. (Infuse your blade with diff attributes to suit your needs)

Fight in an epic all out battle with the scourge vs The New Dawn

Kill a boss that will take you 15+ minutes to down.

Some of the quest just basic like kill 8 of these guys. However many of them have you diving into a mine cart to sneak aboard a ship, use hot pokers to interrogate scarlet crusade to find out information... it goes on and on but they really out did themselves this time on quest progression. Nothing about leveling the DK so far was boring.

Anyway, your going to do a lot of cool things in a 2 hour time span which will have you sitting right at level 58 upon completion. Which if you play wow, you know is BC level to enter the Dark Portal. From there you head out as normal and level up 60-70. However the power of a Death Knight makes things in the BC seem like childs play as you will shread your enemies like a hot knife through butter.

People complained about the BC, but in Blizzard's defense this might actually be the greatest expansion of any MMO of all time. It is that good.

39.99 is a small price to pay to witness MMO perfection.

It is easy to be over enthusiastic so close to an event but I will stick my neck out and say:

I agree 100%. You can smell the Mr Sheen polish on this expansion - so far as I have seen

 as he says, if you have played it the list sums it all up. is it worth $40? For me I am happy to have bought it, I have found the DK thing great fun.

The final quest for the DK line was just brilliant.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Every MMO has an exit poll.

Ofcourse if you cancel on the day or around the day WOTLK comes out you actually get the exit poll at this moment.

On almost every MMO I have played I got an exit poll when I canceled my subscription.

Nothing further to say.

In this case you are wrong, <wipes smug smile from your face>. Know your facts before you bully ppl.

Nothing further to say.

Originally posted by ruffandready

  WOW is great pvp ???  In case you don't know when I say WOW  i 'm  talking about WorldOfWarcraft !!

  It is just terrible pvp no ifs ands or buts about it.

Daoc is heads above  any game as far as pvp goes,and since that was created by mythic, i'm  very sure  warhammer will have comparable pvp as daoc.

Right now there is just too many wow players and the sooner they leave the better imo. What did wow ever have to offer  other than a tedious pve grind to 60,and then more grinding to get the best armor, then what was there after that? It was level 60s comming in droves to Tarren Mills and Southshore ,and then came the tennis  rvr, back and forth from from TM to SS, SS to TN, and that was IT as far as rvr went when the game 1st came out. A little while later, came the scenarios, where you had to wait for hours just to get in as it allowed i think 40 players or 40 from each realm. Whooopee now  THAT was boring, not the pve, which  is just a necessary evil that allows you to be competative in rvr, and know that it's just temporary, and it matters not what the pve is like, what the mobs look like, or all this BS about  immersion into the game for crying out loud. If you want to your emotions affected that much by a GAME, then u had better start looking for help.             Now once the pve is done, the rvr  takes over,and that is what DID NOT happen for me in WOW.

   So  i hope the WOW players will do the rest of us a favor and fade away, and leave the rest to enjoy RVR. 

 

Ironic

Originally posted by rhinok

 I just hit 12 with my WH this morning.  It's been a lot of fun, so far.  I'm consistently getting top damage dealt in scenarios (well, since I just hit T2, I'll have to see how I do) as long as I'm alive.  I've also had up to 5 solo kills in a single scenario and can hold my own against most other classes one-on-one.

I also try to make use of utility skills to help either myself or my team mates.  For example, I try to snare as much as possible, use incognito and shield burn against melee enemies, use position based attacks, etc...

I'm not an expert at the class by any means, but I didn't have any problems in T1 - hopefully that continues to be the case as I level higher.

~Ripper

sorry but T1 and T2  are light night and day

Originally posted by daeandor

Originally posted by madstoog

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Originally posted by Soto

That is it! I give up playing the witch hunter. The class is a joke...unable to kill healers, tanks, witch elf, magic users. Only thing we can kill is a SH and after patch 1.05 that will become much harder.

What the hell were there thinking about when designing this weak ass class...besides the stupid fancy clothes?

 

 

What the...

you think you have it rough, try Engineer/Magus or Squig Herder/Shadow Warrior.

Think what he was saying is that the WH is useless for what its purpose is, which is killing healers/strong range dps. Healers always out heal my dps.. and im throwing everything i have against them.

 

Healers out heal your dps?  You are definately doing something wrong.  At 30, my zealot cannot keep himself alive vs a WH past the few seconds my morale 3 melee absorb, detaunt, and damage reduction buff last.  All they have to do is wait about 10 seconds and my tricks are spent and I am dead.

The problem I found as a retired WH @ 23 was'

You pop out of stealth, the healer immediatley pops a shield, Hots etc and runs to the nearest gang of friendlies. You've spent all your AP and the healer is still up and now you get floored by a mob of ppl. Tier 3 is worse due to many knockbacks.

The concept of a WH is a rogue-wow-esque without the dps or survival tools, in so far as I played. I tried many ways of playing but gave up with it in the end, then I later gave up on WAR 

Originally posted by Getalife

Never mind i canceled subscription today. I can't even resub because GOA can't make account managment work after 2 months. Server transfers available end of this year? oh well good luck Mythic. I blame Mythic more than GOA. They should have known better after DAOC mess up.

Anyways, going to download WAR US version from EB. GOA and EU servers can go to hell for all i care. One lesson that i learned after playing LOTR and WAR is that no matter what happens. Never ever buy EU version of MMO. They will never learn how to treat there EU customer base.

 

 

with the exception of WoW.