All Posts by saay

 Making any sort of assumption now, i believe, is frivolous until we know at least some basic details of this MMO. For all we know it could be a MMO FPS with jedi poking out of its ears, targeted at 6 year olds (unlikely i know). If we see something thats comparable to SWG, but obviously updated, then yes, most of the playerbase will leave SWG. If we find out it lacks some of the key features that SWG has (good player housing, cities, crafting etc), then the effect may be somewhat different.

Im going to wait and see how this one turns out, it could go anywhere at this point, which is exciting.

 Im gonna take a wild stab in the dark and guess, that whatever this MMO comes to be, Jedi wont be rare, at least not as rare as the Pre-CU era, especially if it's set in the Old Republic.

Oh and hi again everyone, im back, i bet salvaje missed me.

Originally posted by sookster54

I thought I'd share this since I find it quite funny. It's one of the things I find very very wrong with SWG today, and some people actually complained about buffs pre-CU? All there was were doctor buffs that made a difference.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=676469

People get an ent buff, made by an entertainer (their content) (ok they dont craft it, but they do dance etc and can complete quests to improve their buffs and whatnot), they get some medic buffs, usually out of the field and they use some food/drink (crafted by someone), its not a big deal, and it promotes social interaction just as it used to though maybe to a lesser extent and in a different way. Addittionally, all traders craft powerups and such for combatants use.

Originally posted by ThaneB

I am writing this thread to show the stupidity of many SWG veterans. Which makes all SWG veterans, including myself look like complete lunatics. Please read the entire thread before you post anything. Trolls, I advise you all to stay clear of this thread. I am an SWG veteran, and this thread's intention isn't to try to justify the NGE. The true purpose of this thread is to tell every fellow SWG veteran to finally shut their huge mouths, and find a new fun game to play. Just like I did. Yes I'm a genius I managed to find a game other than SWG. Please feel free to congratulate me (sarcasm).

I am very surprised and annoyed by the fact that people are still whining about the NGE and CU. It has been 3 years ladies and gentlemen. Three years!, how can you hold a grudge for so long? This next sentence will sound very sexist, and I apologize. The only people I've seen hold grudges for that long are women. You guys sound like complete fools when you whine about something that occured a few years back.

All of you that disagree with me will probably try to counter this argument by saying that you spent time and money on this game. So your telling me that every game that you played and got tired of and quit, was a waste of your time and money. My friends that is exactly what it sounds like. You had fun with SWG right? that's all that matters. Move on to a new game, no game is eternal. The only games that are eternal are vaporware.

There are many great games out there. Trust me you'll find one you like. I was one of those that was pissed off at SOE for ruining SWG, but I moved on. Yes SWG was one of my favorite games, but I got sick and tired of whining about something I had no power over. Just stay clear of SWG and play a game you do enjoy. Crying will get you nowhere. It will just make you miserable.

 

Originally posted by jaxscorpio34

Originally posted by saay

1. I'd rather navigate my avatar 1m around a rock than have my avatar look like it was drawn by a 6 year old. Its an old game, you cant jump over things - big deal. 2. Not one of those 3 versions of the game has been through the amount of changes that leaves the game where it is now. Sure we still have 9 proffessions, but we have BM, we're getting droid commander, we have expertise. Combat has changed immensely, maybe not as much as slowing back down again, but it has been transformed. There are elements which are similar to the NGE, but the game in it's current state cannot really be called the NGE as it was.

Hey, a spade is a spade.  As I said, there have been three versions of this game released.  Just because they've added elements to the NGE doesn't mean the NGE version of the game has somehow been converted into some newer, fourth version of the game.  I do love seeing how your mind works though.  I look at it this way, when they added content (corvette, bestine elections, JTL, etc) to the original game you didn't see players running around saying stupid things like, "it's a whole new game because the devs. added content".  This is not the case today because today you people are so desperate to shed that negative aura brought about by the NGE that you'll say anything to convince us that the NGE version of the game no longer exists. 

 

Last time I logged in the game still had the same crap it had when the NGE was first introduced.  They may have added some additional crap to the list but that's all it is, crap.  Come back and see me when the game has a real questing system that will take you all the way to 90 as was promised when the NGE was released; a UI that's worth a damn; collision detection and AI fixes that prevent NPCs from spawning in and shooting through walls & trees.  How anyone can sit here with a straight face and try to convince people that SWG is actually a good game when compared to other  games on the market today is beyond me.  Those doing so are either delusional, retarded or perhaps a bit of both.

Originally posted by jaxscorpio34

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by vet-in-exile

 

Originally posted by saay
Its a shame the foundation that WoW builds on is an insult to humanity.

You mean the foundation that SOE tried to copy and paste for the NGE? That foundation?

 

 

Well considering how bad the NGE is I don't blame you for hating it. Too bad SOE couldn't even steal WoW correctly...

No. I hate it because as i said, it is an insult to us all. And quite clearly it is what the masses are satisfied with, which is a shame. SOE did indeed copy elements of WoW into SWG (Heroics were copied very well, they are very popular in game). Fortunately, SOE didnt try to copy the elements of WoW that make it embarrassing; the graphics, gameplay etc. NGE was terrible - thank god we don't have it anymore.

1.  The limitations of the game engine make SWG's graphics and gameplay an embarassment when compared to other games on the market today.  Hell, characters can't even jump in SWG and, according to the devs. they'll never be able to because of the engine's limitations.  You want to talk about embarassing game play?  How about throwing on a mando. jet pack (or hopping on any speeder for that matter) and riding around on Endor or Yavin without ever having to navigate around rocks and tree limbs on the ground because there is no collision detection in the game that will allow you to fly over them.  At least in WoW you can jump over a log.

2.  There have been three versions of SWG over the years -- 1) Original, 2)  CU and 3) NGE.  The version you're playing now is the NGE version.  Sure, they may have added some additional features since it was forced onto an unsuspecting playerbase a couple of years ago but it's still the same craptacular game and will continue to be so until the day it's shut down.

Originally posted by vet-in-exile

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by iwantmyswg

 

Originally posted by safwd

I work for SOE also.

YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!!

Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago.

The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much.

But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.

 

Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.

really?

 

that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.

that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.

and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.

Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?

The game is dead now. The fanbois just won't admit it.

Originally posted by vet-in-exile

Originally posted by Dracus

I have a question, is there anyone who believes that SWG has more than 100,000 active subscribers? (Interesting isn't it, that we're now discussing numbers in the 50k average range?)

I honestly don't believe this game has more than 10k players. I'm not exaggerating or trying to be dramatic but looking at every source available I just don't see more than 10k subscribers left.

Originally posted by vet-in-exile

Originally posted by saay
Its a shame the foundation that WoW builds on is an insult to humanity.

You mean the foundation that SOE tried to copy and paste for the NGE? That foundation?

 

Well considering how bad the NGE is I don't blame you for hating it. Too bad SOE couldn't even steal WoW correctly...

Originally posted by Stanford

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by iwantmyswg

 

Originally posted by safwd

I work for SOE also.

YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!!

Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago.

The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much.

But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.

 

Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.

really?

 

that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.

that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.

and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.

Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?

the sentience of approaching death, died to violance from developers.

Originally posted by Esquire1980

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by bstuart

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you

 

swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

You must have this confused with another SWG than the 1 I've been playing.  Since I just cancelled my 3 accounts and moved to AoC.

To the OP, it isn't worth it on Kauri.  I transfered to Bria last Dec. (from Kauri) and I think Kauri sports a total of 10 players on at any given time, maybe 40 to 50 in total.

Now for the guy that thinks SWG is doing just fine;  I left Kauri for Bria and Bria was like Kauri prior to the Chapter 6 Combat Downgrade.  SInce then, the numbers even on bria are bleeding at a large rate.  When AoC hit the "pre-time", you couldn't hardly find an ent buff.  Nothing but AFK, level 10 dancers in tinas and they belong to the credit farmers.  I seen a rather large guild, over 100, with about 20 on vent every night go to 2 on vent.  SWG is leaching subs at a very large rate now.

And for the GCW reports.  Most everyone left on SWG has more than 1 account and I happen to know alot of those people listed,(bria and Kauri)  in game, and most have at least 2 toons listed and some, more.  I had 3 accounts, myself. (6 toons)

Damn shame tho.  SWG could have been the best thing since sliced toast.  If they would have chose a foundation and built on that, the way WoW does (without CHANGEING even the FOUNDATION every 3 months), SWG could have went a long way.

The CU/NGE Development Team marches merrily along.

Originally posted by Fishermage

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by bstuart

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

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I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

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more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you
swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

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I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

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I actually play it, although I play CoH and WoW more, and we are NOT doing well at all. Bloodfin is one of the better servers, but is a mere shadow of it's former self. My other servers, which were quieter, are Intrepid (dead), Shadowfire (more dead), Kettemoor (even worse than more dead), and Chilastra (not so great).

Age of Conan is causing quite the hemmorage, larger than I thought would happen.

I have no idea what the actual numbers might be, and wouldn't even venture to guess, but things are not going well at all.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

  Then Lets go with a source that has the stamp of approval of all -

GCW Server Stats

Check this page if you want to know which server got the most officers! Find out which servers are dominated by the Rebel Alliance and which servers are safely under control of our beloved Emperor.

 swg.activeframe.de/bb-std/tp-en/main.12.html

This week the number of players in the Galatic Civil War is 9199 and add 50% more for carebears . That would bring it up to 14700 players  this past week and I am being nice. It may be only about 12k.

  12k to 14.7k across 25 servers ( not counting the Test Server) is too low. POTBS had 65k players across 11 servers and they just got knocked down to just 4 servers. 

SOE is just getting lazy because its too much work for a game that is a hair from its Killswitch.

 

Originally posted by bstuart

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you

swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

Originally posted by iwantmyswg

Originally posted by safwd

I work for SOE also.

YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!!

Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago.

The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much.

But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.

 

Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.

really?

that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.

that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.

and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.

Originally posted by smg777

Originally posted by saay You do need to get over it.

Saay, no matter what you say or how many posts the fanbois make the vets aren't coming back. Get. Over. It.