NC Soft has give a free week-end to the people that were old subscribers of the game.

I have played the game.  I was in beta, but never pass to release.

I have to say that the game is still  fun to play,  theres a very good comunity, and the game has good graphics.

Theres new features to make grinding more fun. And I don't feel any nerf.

I have to repeat that I am really happy with the community, congratulations for soo wellcome and friendly one.

And thanks to NC Soft for let  us try again his game :D

--Tei

his?  (since when was a whole company a he or a she?)

anyway the game was average.  its in the bargain bin at my local stores so its not looking good for new players.

thats sad to hear

i wanted the game to succeed just because Garriott worked on it

but i wasnt really interested in playing with laser guns

Originally posted by Death1942

his?  (since when was a whole company a he or a she?)

Sorry, my english is ultrabad.

I recently returned to Tabula Rasa myself on free time offered by NCsoft.

Having beta tested the game and played it at launch and having left the game at the begining of this year, i think it has improved both graphically and gameplay wise, whilst still not perfect (what MMO is?) it is great for the casual gamer. 

Load up the game have a blast for a couple of hours and then log out and i think that is another part of it's appeal.

I don't understand what a retailer putting a game in it's bargin basement section has to do with how popular a game is,  the retailer has bought a number of units from the game company and it is retailer that has decided to cut the price, this is no reflection on the game.  If anything it may encourage more people to pick the game up.

Originally posted by cag1980

I recently returned to Tabula Rasa myself on free time offered by NCsoft.

Having beta tested the game and played it at launch and having left the game at the begining of this year, i think it has improved both graphically and gameplay wise, whilst still not perfect (what MMO is?) it is great for the casual gamer. 

Load up the game have a blast for a couple of hours and then log out and i think that is another part of it's appeal.

I don't understand what a retailer putting a game in it's bargin basement section has to do with how popular a game is,  the retailer has bought a number of units from the game company and it is retailer that has decided to cut the price, this is no reflection on the game.  If anything it may encourage more people to pick the game up.

Of course it is a reflection on the game. If the retailer has decided to sell the game so low that they are basicly clearing inventory and not making any money off it, you can bet your ass the game was not a big time seller. If the game was popular they would have trouble keeping it on the shelves as it would sell out repeatedly. TR has no such problem. Go take a look at your local game store, there is guildwars still selling for more than TR. Thats because it is 10X the game TR is today. Retailers do not bargain price GW because it still sells. Yes lower price should get some people to try it and then many of them will realize its a fun combat game that needs a lot of work to be a full scale MMO worth $15 a month.

The problem with it being great for the casual gamer is that it has lost almost all the hard core gamers and even the average player has more than one char at or near level cap. A game with approx. 35k subs is not doing great, it is survivng and most likely will for years to come, but I doubt it will ever be what RG said it would be at release and that was a game to rival WOW.

If someone thinks a game sucks because it is in the bargin bin then sadly I think you're missing a lot of cool games. It may not have sold millions but that doesn't mean it sucks from a gamers point of view.

DDO is in the bargin bin as well and Turbine admitted it is making them a profit. That is another awesome game, great community.

I played WoW when it started for 2 months, it wasn't my game and that is the big subscriber hit, the game lacked any type of fun for me. TR on the other hand for me is a lot of fun. The community is awesome, the gameplay is fun, and the updates are good.

To each their own, but bargin bin games can hold lots of fun.

Originally posted by Sevenwind

If someone thinks a game sucks because it is in the bargin bin then sadly I think you're missing a lot of cool games. It may not have sold millions but that doesn't mean it sucks from a gamers point of view.

DDO is in the bargin bin as well and Turbine admitted it is making them a profit. That is another awesome game, great community.

I played WoW when it started for 2 months, it wasn't my game and that is the big subscriber hit, the game lacked any type of fun for me. TR on the other hand for me is a lot of fun. The community is awesome, the gameplay is fun, and the updates are good.

To each their own, but bargin bin games can hold lots of fun.

DDO did not hit the bargain bin 6 months after release. Turbine can say it makes a profit all they like. When you fall as far behind as DDO did and will be 2 years late with hitting level 20 it shows your dev team might be 10 people or so tops.

No one says TR sucks because it is in the bargain bin, you should just becareful thinking the game has depth or content when 6 months after release it hits the bargain area.

These things are all your opinion. I think the community is tiny and has a poor attitude for the most part. I also think it has nothing to do besides a gun version of a Hack -n- Slash. Sorry but that is not a monthly MMO to me. The updates are finishing what should have been done in beta.

DDO community suffers from the same disease as the TR community, they both think they are better than WOW players because they play a game with 35k subs. TR and DDO would kill for 20% of WOWs numbers.

Originally posted by Rokurgepta

Originally posted by Sevenwind

If someone thinks a game sucks because it is in the bargin bin then sadly I think you're missing a lot of cool games. It may not have sold millions but that doesn't mean it sucks from a gamers point of view.

DDO is in the bargin bin as well and Turbine admitted it is making them a profit. That is another awesome game, great community.

I played WoW when it started for 2 months, it wasn't my game and that is the big subscriber hit, the game lacked any type of fun for me. TR on the other hand for me is a lot of fun. The community is awesome, the gameplay is fun, and the updates are good.

To each their own, but bargin bin games can hold lots of fun.

 

DDO did not hit the bargain bin 6 months after release. Turbine can say it makes a profit all they like. When you fall as far behind as DDO did and will be 2 years late with hitting level 20 it shows your dev team might be 10 people or so tops.

  Who cares what size the dev team is?, so you won't be getting huge updates and things won't be fixed as quick, But that dev team are dedicated to the game.

No one says TR sucks because it is in the bargain bin, you should just becareful thinking the game has depth or content when 6 months after release it hits the bargain area.

Just because you don't like the game you shouldn't tell people to be  careful about what they think of the game,  to me the game does have depth,  solo and group content good graphics and audio and as i said good for the casual gamer.  But this is my opinion so i had better be careful  :P

These things are all your opinion. I think the community is tiny and has a poor attitude for the most part. I also think it has nothing to do besides a gun version of a Hack -n- Slash. Sorry but that is not a monthly MMO to me. The updates are finishing what should have been done in beta.

 

No one is saying it is anything but their opinion.  The community is small yes but like most small communities it is good.  Yes it is  a shooter but it does have depth.  As to updates fixing what should have been done in beta,  have you ever played AoC??

DDO community suffers from the same disease as the TR community, they both think they are better than WOW players because they play a game with 35k subs. TR and DDO would kill for 20% of WOWs numbers.

Of course they would kill for the numbers because this would then mean their game would get better alot faster,  as to the comunity being better or worse than WoW (haven't played that one myself)  from what i see on forums all over the place it wouldn't be hard.

Originally posted by cag1980

Originally posted by Rokurgepta

Originally posted by Sevenwind

If someone thinks a game sucks because it is in the bargin bin then sadly I think you're missing a lot of cool games. It may not have sold millions but that doesn't mean it sucks from a gamers point of view.

DDO is in the bargin bin as well and Turbine admitted it is making them a profit. That is another awesome game, great community.

I played WoW when it started for 2 months, it wasn't my game and that is the big subscriber hit, the game lacked any type of fun for me. TR on the other hand for me is a lot of fun. The community is awesome, the gameplay is fun, and the updates are good.

To each their own, but bargin bin games can hold lots of fun.

 

DDO did not hit the bargain bin 6 months after release. Turbine can say it makes a profit all they like. When you fall as far behind as DDO did and will be 2 years late with hitting level 20 it shows your dev team might be 10 people or so tops.

  Who cares what size the dev team is?, so you won't be getting huge updates and things won't be fixed as quick, But that dev team are dedicated to the game.

No one says TR sucks because it is in the bargain bin, you should just becareful thinking the game has depth or content when 6 months after release it hits the bargain area.

Just because you don't like the game you shouldn't tell people to be  careful about what they think of the game,  to me the game does have depth,  solo and group content good graphics and audio and as i said good for the casual gamer.  But this is my opinion so i had better be careful  :P

These things are all your opinion. I think the community is tiny and has a poor attitude for the most part. I also think it has nothing to do besides a gun version of a Hack -n- Slash. Sorry but that is not a monthly MMO to me. The updates are finishing what should have been done in beta.

 

No one is saying it is anything but their opinion.  The community is small yes but like most small communities it is good.  Yes it is  a shooter but it does have depth.  As to updates fixing what should have been done in beta,  have you ever played AoC??

DDO community suffers from the same disease as the TR community, they both think they are better than WOW players because they play a game with 35k subs. TR and DDO would kill for 20% of WOWs numbers.

Of course they would kill for the numbers because this would then mean their game would get better alot faster,  as to the comunity being better or worse than WoW (haven't played that one myself)  from what i see on forums all over the place it wouldn't be hard.

I never said either community was worse than WOW. I really doubt that is possible.

Telling people to becareful spending their money on a half finished product is a bad thing? You have your opinion I have mine, as a non casual gamer I am giving my opinion that the game is not money well spent. A game with no high level content  and very fast leveling has little depth, the war is a joke.

I care what size the dev team is, if I am asked to pay $15 a month I want to have regular updates and problems fixed. DDO is down to about 2 updates a year and that is why they no longer get my money.

If a game is going to have slow updates and fix things slowly then it should not charge as much as a game that does those things much faster. Do you understand that simple concept?

Oh yes i understand that concept.  What i was trying to say is that the person is already enjoying the game, so they have already spent their money and decided they like it so warning them is a bit of a moot point.

As to a small dev team, i also play Vanguard and a small dedicated dev team from SOE have done wonders for that game and it is now in a much better state than when it launched and they are looking at a small relaunch soon with a trial island.   The size of the team means slower development but if you like something you stick with it.  Newer games like Conan (i had hopes for that one due to the lore) Just failed and even though they have a bigger dev team, they are still not fixing what needs to be fixed, instead they are looking forward to an expansion :S 

As to subs Vanguard for me is £10pm and Tara is £8pm.  Again if you like something you stick with it.  As to dropping the subs, i don't think that will happen as they still need to pay people to build the game.

Just a question for you did you buy AoC?

Originally posted by Teiman

NC Soft has give a free week-end to the people that were old subscribers of the game.

I have played the game.  I was in beta, but never pass to release.

I have to say that the game is still  fun to play,  theres a very good comunity, and the game has good graphics.

Theres new features to make grinding more fun. And I don't feel any nerf.

I have to repeat that I am really happy with the community, congratulations for soo wellcome and friendly one.

And thanks to NC Soft for let  us try again his game :D

 

--Tei

I think its a whole month free, or this whole month.

I did go and try it again, still has MAJOR performance problems. Dint get passed tutorial, again!