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Champions Online » General Discussion » Does anyone know why Marvel pulled out of this game?

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jaxsundane  8/10/08 9:32:07 PM

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For those of you who don't know this is the same game that at one time was being built as Marvel Universe Online I played champions a bit and liked it but would like this much better if it had stayed in the marvel universe as I am a huge marvel comics fan I'm sure I'll still give it a go but anyone know what happenend?

 

 
BRYANBARTLEY  8/10/08 9:36:00 PM

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whered you play it?

 

 

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BRYANBARTLEY  8/10/08 9:37:05 PM

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well from what i read i think microsoft is scared of getting into the MMO market

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jaxsundane  8/10/08 9:41:08 PM

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Originally posted by BRYANBARTLEY

whered you play it?

 

 


 

Oops I should have mentioned it was champions pen and paper just pointing out I wa ssomewhat familiar with the champions universe not the mmo

 
BRYANBARTLEY  8/10/08 10:15:27 PM

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ah, yea like i said...Microsoft is afraid to try to venture into the MMO market due to their last horrible failure.

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jaxsundane  8/10/08 10:16:28 PM

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Originally posted by BRYANBARTLEY

ah, yea like i said...Microsoft is afraid to try to venture into the MMO market due to their last horrible failure.


 

So microsoft has the rights to a marvel mmo and hired cryptic?

 
BRYANBARTLEY  8/10/08 10:26:21 PM

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/81361-Marvel-Universe-Online-Cancelled

 

there were also some dissagreements between marvel/microsoft on licensing

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spookytooth  8/10/08 10:27:07 PM

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Microsoft doesnt have rights to it, they were just the publisher. And yes, they want into the mmo market but are too chicken shit to take the plunge. I read an interview with Brian Bendis (he is the top writer at Marvel currently and was part of the project) he said that out of nowhere Microsoft suddenly pulled the plug, no reason given. As to why Cryptic did not stick with Marvel and find a new publisher...that I dont know.

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Wikkedbowtie  8/11/08 12:39:15 AM

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Could have sworn that microsoft and marvel both pulled out due to not being able to guarantee WoW-like success.

 
bverji  8/11/08 11:00:43 AM

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I don't have the link, but the press release given at the time sugggested that Microsoft wasn't happy with the solutions presented in incorporating the Marvel universe in a MMO setting. IE the interaction with marvel characters to limiting to be worth the license.

 
jaxsundane  8/12/08 6:58:57 PM

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Originally posted by bverji

I don't have the link, but the press release given at the time sugggested that Microsoft wasn't happy with the solutions presented in incorporating the Marvel universe in a MMO setting. IE the interaction with marvel characters to limiting to be worth the license.


 

That sounds sensible I'd guess but I hope marvel gives it another shot because I'm starting to fear they won't have to do much to be better than DCUO

 
Obee  8/15/08 3:55:33 AM

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Originally posted by spookytooth

Microsoft doesnt have rights to it, they were just the publisher. And yes, they want into the mmo market but are too chicken shit to take the plunge. I read an interview with Brian Bendis (he is the top writer at Marvel currently and was part of the project) he said that out of nowhere Microsoft suddenly pulled the plug, no reason given. As to why Cryptic did not stick with Marvel and find a new publisher...that I dont know.

 

Microsoft bought the rights to make an MMO based on the Marvel Universe, and then hired Cryptic to make it.  The project was canceled by Microsoft, and there was nothing Cryptic could have done, aside from buying the rights from Microsoft, to continue making a Marvel based game.  Microsoft hired Cryptic to make the game, Cryptic didn't secure the rights and then contact Microsoft.

Microsoft likely still has the rights to make a Marvel Universe MMO, depending on stipulations in the contract (such as having to have a released game by a certian date, or needing to show a certian amount of progress by a certian date).  Considering some of the poor contracts the folks at Marvel have made over the years, Microsoft might have the rights to the Marvel MMO for the next ten years (the reason why it took so long for movies based on Marvel's characters was because they licensed them to people who were unable to come up with financing for the films, or had made a fim that was so bad that nobody was willing to distribute it, such as the original Fantastic Four film).

 

 

 
UnSub  8/18/08 12:58:37 AM

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I wrote something up on this issue previously. The rumour I believe is that Marvel cancelled the project (or agitated until the project was cancelled) so that they could get back the rights to develop their own MMO at some point in the future.

 
zymurgeist  8/18/08 1:06:50 AM

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Originally posted by UnSub

I wrote something up on this issue previously. The rumour I believe is that Marvel cancelled the project (or agitated until the project was cancelled) so that they could get back the rights to develop their own MMO at some point in the future.


 

It's likely. Marvel was getting pretty tired of people &^%&*$ their properties up and siphoning off most of the profits. You'll noticed their last two movies have been self financed and they reaped the lions share of the profits. They were also much truer to the Marvel Universe.  I dispaired of anyone ever making a halfway decent Hulk movie.

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dethgar  8/18/08 1:08:38 AM