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Originally posted by Pyrostasis
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by Pyrostasis
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
Is there a lot of hate towards DF? Yes.
Could Tasos's rather blatant arogance in the thread be due to the hate? Sure, probably is.
Then my question would be, Why has Adventurine, and Tasos cultured and fueled this hate?
Every thing they release is vague, extremely vague. They dodge questions that arent about gameplay, or NDA game features, but about development cycles. They dont do any main stream media previews, and when they finally hit a mainstream outlet, they come off as curt and rude.
Sure MMORPG.com asked some tough questions... but... its nothing that most of us that are labeled as "Haters" by the fanbois have been screaming about for years.
Most of us that are skeptical about DF, have been following the game since we played UO and AC1. We were at one point in time rather hopeful about the game (at least I know I was)... but you can only fake start beta so many times, pretend to be close to launch so many times. Eventually you get to the point that you want to see some hard evidence before you get your hopes up again.
Adventurine could turn around the DF negativity TOMORROW, by letting IGN, MMORPG, Gamespy, and a few others into beta, and giving them freedom to post what they think. Information would flood out, skeptics would have their doubts either shattered or confirmed, and DF would get some much needed publicity.
Adventurine however has chosen to treat DF like the roswel incident. We know somethings going on in that dessert, but we dont know if its aliens or a weather ballon.
IF darkfall is as close to release as Tasos claims, then there is no reason to NOT get the media behind them. Its free advertising.
However, assuming everything is as good as Tasos says (which we have no third party to verify that) the only thing that disturbs me is beta. Several hundred people is less than 1000. Most MMO servers now have 2000 - 10000 people on one server. With so few people there, they have no way of stress testing the servers or their network. Even if Darkfall is as badass as we are being led to believe, we are being setup for experiencing server side lag and conectivity issues that havent been seen since the first week of Ultima Online launch back in August of 1997.
actully this has been convered in journal but it wasnt full of details how but yea they found a way to do tis called npc/ai that cause just as much stress as real players. also you can packet spam the server.
but ir emeber taoss saying the server cant till the diffrence between a real player and the npc/bots/ai in game
pretty good hint how they did itAh, yes. The amazing Darkfall AI which not only controls all those goblins but also beta test the game.
I still get a laugh from that one.
that isnt what tasos meant by a i helping them it really hard ot explain. let me put this in a way youll understand
bots/ai/npc cause same stress as real players. (server cant tell the diffrence from players or npcs) ai skilsl up jsut like a rela player it roams it does stuff jsu tliek a real player would it builds yada yada yada. to what extent do they help who knows but the main one i bet is stress granted theys till need to let alto of people in to double check everything. but i have seen a fake npc logged into (cough swg pre cu emulator that was causign the same stress as a real person)
There we go, I can argue that.
See, bots and AI cant cause the same stress for multiple reasons.
#1 they were programed by the same people who programed the game.
#2 Computers are only as good as they were programed
#3 Players do things programers never intended them to do or try, that pretty much breaks 2 and 1
#4 Players use third party apps to try and break the game and cheat...AI doesnt do that.
#5 Most importantly, Players connect from outside the building, from different regions, states, etc. AI connects internally. Its not going to stress test the network infrastructure.
#6 Players use different pcs, millions and millions of different systems, AI doesnt test that.
Thats just a few rather simple issues I can come up with that AI cant solve.... and those issues alone could cause MASSIVE problems.
I agree with everything you said my friend. The guy has no clue what he's talking about. But you minds well be talking to the fly, which is about the same mentality as the DF fanboys.
Originally posted by khameleon
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by khameleon
There is not a single person from the official forums in the beta, not even guys that signed up in 2003 and b efore.
This is factually wrong.
If you want to wait till the NDA is lifted and then necro quote me on this, I will be more than happy to provide proof. I know multiple forumfallers who were invited to the beta after the signup.
But hey way to make up things.
Yea sure you do buddy. I am on the official forums all the time and none were invited, I see all the long term followers giving up on posting nowadays becasue they are so disappointed they are not in the beta yet.
Open beta was said to be OVER BY Dec. 15th, but all they have shows are EARLY closed beta quotes and reviews, starter area and thats it.
Tasos is a liar man, why do you believe that guy anymore? Each year they show you a few screens and info to keep you going, but they never release.
There is no word about the game on any retailers site or store, there is no digital distribution partner that would sell the game online and host the downloadable client, there is no BILLING system or account system in place on the website, there is nothing pointing to a release by 2008 which they said was the release date.\
Stop believing them and start to force them to answer the questions, if not you will be sitting there til 2010 and still no game, believe me.
Give it up my friend... The DF fanboys are so taken in by the word of Tasos (or whatever the hell his name is) and blinded by the hype that you can try as hard as you want to but you'll never be able to slap some common sense into them.
Being a bit skeptical or asking for definitive answers = "you're a troll!" to these numbnuts...
All I can suggest is just wait and see...
Good point. Yeah until we have a working model we can all try for ourselves it's really difficult to actually make a good judgement.
Plus computer graphics are very similar to art. it's very subjective and opinions vary, so....
Originally posted by Deathstrike2
Originally posted by EbonHawk
Originally posted by Deathstrike2
3 BALROGS? OMG, I just felt my panties bunching up. Oh the drama! Oh the humanity! Whatever will we do???
LMAO, LOTRO is a game with emphasis on the word "game." If you can't handle that, go back to your books.
I concur. But may I suggest de-caf...
Haha! You may. I was laughing while typing that post, so don't take me too seriously. I'm just having a little fun :p
hehe ok gotch'a my friend![]()
And like I said I completely agree with you. Bottom-line is these are just games people...
Originally posted by Deathstrike2
3 BALROGS? OMG, I just felt my panties bunching up. Oh the drama! Oh the humanity! Whatever will we do???
LMAO, LOTRO is a game with emphasis on the word "game." If you can't handle that, go back to your books.
I concur. But may I suggest de-caf...
What is your favorite of EVE's four major factions?