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Originally posted by jblah
Originally posted by Jackdog
I have to wonder if the OP's main is a Minstrel. If so I can understand his bile, Turbine really screwed that class over bad.
Overall I think this was a good expansion but yes the Minstrel is pretty much a hosed class at this point. Changes are upcoming in the first patch but I have to wonder if it is enough to fix what should have never made it to release. Guardians took some pretty nasty nerfs also from what my friends tell me. No personal experience there. I rarely group with my LM, and there are some complaints there but he solos like a madman. On the otehr hand Minstrels still are terrrible solo and die way too easy when grouped.
I like the new weapons system but have to give the new class tree idea a C minus or a D grade. Turbine tried to fix something which was not broken. Same with the new crafting Guilds. They are ok but seem like a lot of work to fix something that did not need fixed.
The new areas are just awesome, not perfect but very very good. A big B+ on that point.
Crafting changes I am luke warm over. I like the new Guild system to a point, but have to wonder if it were really necessary. Once again if it isn't broke then why fix it.
so in summary
Class Changes D-
New Weapons System B+
New Areas B+
New Classes B
New Skill Trees C-
Crafting Changes C
Overall C
Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh coming from someone who has a rep as a Turbine fanboy but Turbine really did fall down a few notches in my eyes on this one.
I understand that those are your opinions and while I have shelved my Min till the next patch can you please explain a little more on some of your grades?
Class changes dont really agree there they are different but some people dont like change yes Mins are shitty to solo with but still the best healers. Other class complaints?
Guardians need some love, LM's who are heavy into grouping and or PvMP are also crying for changes. I dismissed mot of this as board whiners till I saw for myself how bad Minstrel was hosed. Now I will gibe them the benefit of the doubt.
New weapon system B+ really.... tell me how it could be better seems perfect to me I can not personally think of a way to make it better. Tell me what you would change.
What Beaverz said
New areas ....lots of swift travel I like this alot I assume you have seen all of the new areas so I will not question that but what is wrong with them? what could be better?
Mob density in Moria is pretty thick. A lot of the outside quests involve a lot of travel. I have found a couple of bugged quests in a couple of areas. Overall I like it and think a B+ is a good grade.
New Classes I have not played them so no comment on that.
So far I am not impressed all that much by the Rune Keeper Class. Love the Wardens though
New skill trees C- ok I see that a little for some classes but what classes did you feel were bad and what needs changed? I played a burg and they seem fine for what they are and the Min tree that gives like a 85% less healing sucks big time but it can be fixed but still agree.
I misworded that. I meant the trait lines. One example isway too much grinding to get some traits for the minstrels heal line. For example some require 300 to 400 repetitions on a skill that has 10 minute cool down. Again on the minstrel ther is too much of a penalty on the heals when in War speech now. 85% reduction for having 3 traits slotted. I ended up taking one out and slotted a trait which is so so from anotehr tree just to get the penalty reduced.
What is wrong with crafting seems like its mostly the same but they added crafting guilds have you tried them yet or are you just speculating that they suck?
Why the crafting guilds? Just more grinding ion my opinion. Again it was a pretty good system just the way it was. Why fix what did not need fixed. More complicated is not always better.
Overall grade no problem there as I respect your opinion but as a fellow Lotro guy would really like some more input from you and why you feel the way you do.
The overall grade is a average of all the grades added up with a A being four down to D which is 1.That is how I ended up with a C or C+ if I wanted to be a bit lenient.
Quite a few bugs made it through beta that should not have made it through. As the OP has stated Turbine really fell down on the QA compared to what it was at launch. There are still server problems, I don't recall any server problems at all withteh original launch and the last couple of days I have seen several glitches on Silverlode.
The minstrel dev team should be fired. That is harsh but just the way I feel. Whoefver is in charge of them needs to close the door and have some serious words of prayer. As a long time minstrel ( since beta 2) the changes really kind of gave me a sour taste on the entire expansion.
I have to wonder if the OP's main is a Minstrel. If so I can understand his bile, Turbine really screwed that class over bad.
Overall I think this was a good expansion but yes the Minstrel is pretty much a hosed class at this point. Changes are upcoming in the first patch but I have to wonder if it is enough to fix what should have never made it to release. Guardians took some pretty nasty nerfs also from what my friends tell me. No personal experience there. I rarely group with my LM, and there are some complaints there but he solos like a madman. On the otehr hand Minstrels still are terrrible solo and die way too easy when grouped.
I like the new weapons system but have to give the new class tree idea a C minus or a D grade. Turbine tried to fix something which was not broken. Same with the new crafting Guilds. They are ok but seem like a lot of work to fix something that did not need fixed.
The new areas are just awesome, not perfect but very very good. A big B+ on that point.
Crafting changes I am luke warm over. I like the new Guild system to a point, but have to wonder if it were really necessary. Once again if it isn't broke then why fix it.
so in summary
Class Changes D-
New Weapons System B+
New Areas B+
New Classes B
New Skill Trees C-
Crafting Changes C-
Release Stability and Bugs B
Overall C+
Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh coming from someone who has a rep as a Turbine fanboy but Turbine really did fall down a few notches in my eyes on this one.
Originally posted by Scaredgirl
Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by Azrile
If the majority of your salary came as stock options, which are now worthless, would you keep showing up for work?
Omg and I thought they actually live from subscriptions and products they sell .. so majority of paychecks they issue on the base for how much their stock is selling
What? Um.. what?
Azrile is right. Most employees at FC had STOCK OPTIONS. You clearly don't understand what it means. Go google it and learn something new.
It's these stock options that made secretaries at Microsoft millionaires so it can be a substantial part of your paycheck.
when the stock has drops lower and lower each day along with subscriptions and closes as of yesterday at 3.00 NOK ( $.42 USD or .33€ ) Ifom a high of 55.5 NOK ($7.77 USD or 6.20€). Yes folks the Dow has dropped and GM is in trouble too but I have a bridge to sell to any one who thinks FC stock os a good investment. I would sooner put my money in GM or Ford at teh moment and we know how bad of shape they are in
I only played for about 2 weeks at launch so maybe it does, I could be going senile or something. Inever had any real issues with the games performance myself anyway it was the CS and game design that turned me off to it.
One thing to keep in mind though unless a game is coded for quads you will lose a few FPS. Nothing major of course just a couple FPS which you will probably never notice anyway, just a heads up if the only reason you are upgrading is to try and squeeze out a couple more FPS in you games. If that is the only reason then just get a good dual core , a aftermarket cooler like a Noctua NH-UP12or a Sythe, then overclock it till it screams and save yourself some cash. Then spend the extra cash on a new vid card and overclock it too :).
http//www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/compare,818.html
I bought the lifetime at release and so far it was worth it for me. I burned out last spring and went back to EQII for a couple of months and played AoC for a couple of weeks and basicly just took some time off from the game. It was nice that all I had to do to "come back" was fire up the client.
Do you Role Play?