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  • Posted: 10/02/08 4:42 PM
    Star Wars Galaxies
• • WAR is WoW with slower combat.

  • Originally posted by p4nd4m45t3r
    

    I find it funny that people complain about minor mob bugs and animation glitches. Hell, when WoW was first released picking herbs would crash the game. Walking in certain places would crash the game. Hell, I remember when the Eastern Kingdoms side of the server despawned ALL of the walls on Windrunner it was hilarious.

     

    Warhammer, while it has its bugs, is in a better state then WoW and many other mmos were when they launched.

    
     

    Tis true.  Oh and remember it took Blizz almost a year to fix their lag issues and over populated servers.

  • Posted: 9/13/08 12:51 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • WAR is WoW with slower combat.

  • Originally posted by templarga
    

    Originally posted by aurick
    

    I would have agreed with you if I'd stopped playing my Witch Hunter (or just about any other class in the game) before level 5.  During the earliest levels, combat feels very much like WoW except with fewer abilities and so a slower pace.

    Making things worse with the Witch Hunter was that your attacks each generate an accusation (the game's term for a combo point), and these open up executions (the game's term for finishing blows).  On the surface, the mechanic seemed identical to WoW.  By level 8, that had changed.  Yes, the mechanic is the same on the surface, but the actual play of the character ends up being very different.  For one thing, accusations/combos apply to YOU rather than your enemy.  That means you can switch targets at any time without penalty.  For onother, you start getting tactics and morale abilities.  This means that there's a lot more potential for strategy.  Is an enemy almost dead right when you get 5 accusation built up?  Don't waste that execution!  Finish him off with regular attacks, then start off against your new foe with a really deadly attack!  If you've also been on a kill streak you could even have enough morale built up to use one of those abilities.  If you work the combat so that both execution and morale become available at the same time, you can take out an equal level enemy in two hits.  It's brutal.

    Then there's also the business of tactics.  And when you finally get stealth at level 10 that requires a lot more skill than WoW's stealth system.  For one thing, it slowly drains your action points.  Which means that the longer you spend in stealth the weaker you become.  You cannot afford to just prowl the battlefield with impunity.  You have to be quick and smart.

    That's just the Witch Hunter.  Every single class I've progressed to level 10 has proven to have surprising depth that could not be anticipated from the first 4 or 5 levels.  All of them have proven to have very engaging combat that feels more strategic and less twitchy than WoW.  HOWEVER, the classes only work well if you truly understand your abilities and the synergies between them.  I think this is why WAR took the approach of granting only one or two abilities at each level, but also giving you something new at almost EVERY level.  This gives you time to figure out the secrets of each new ability before it dumps something else on you. 

    There really is a lot of depth for those who bother to give it a chance.

    I could not have said it better myself.
    
    it is obvious that many trolls in these forums played to level 5 or so. Like many games, WAR takes a few levels to come in. When I first started playing, I gave up about level 5 but soon came back and once I got to level 10 or so, I loved the game.

    It is not perfect but it is still a great game and it matures as you play it. Level 10 is entirely different than level 5 (as it should be).
    
    I think its funny that many of the trolls here (who want to save us [the unsuspecting masses] from WAR) are actually recruiting more people to play it because their arguments are so stupid and baseless.
    
    The best part is that its a handful of Age of Conan fanbois who fear WAR because they know that it is going to hurt the subscriber numbers in AOC. And rightfully so....they should be worried because at least Mythic delivered on its promises unlike Funcom that keeps delaying them.

    I agree with you the game changed at level 10. So far I have tried the Witch Hunter, Black Orc, Squig Herder and the Chosen. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses just like every other class out there; you have to know how to use them to your advantage.

  • Posted: 9/13/08 12:40 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • WAR is WoW with slower combat.

  • Originally posted by Dreizack1
    

     I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

    Please go back to AoC and stay there.  You doing so will mean more bandwidth for me and one less whiner on a server.

  • Posted: 9/13/08 12:24 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Warcry slams Warhammer, calling it a WoW clone

  • "The amount of time I was actually able to spend with the game wasn't much, and judging any game on the first three levels of play would be hasty, let alone an MMORPG. Even with that in mind, though, WAR was underwhelming."

    The writer based their review of WAR after only playing 3 levels and then claiming it a WoW clone.  I am not going to jump all over the fact they dislike the game, but they way they did their research is almost like reading the first three pages in a King book and then saying it is a Koontz book without reading the entire book.  Another thing that bugged me that they say that they are a WoW fan, well so was I, and I know that some classes did not become awesome to play until later levels, like when priests made level 30.  In the end I can not believe their review and until WAR is fully released to the public I would wait to find a review were the writter actually spent time playing the game and leveling.  Then again that is just my opinion.

  • Posted: 9/12/08 12:30 AM
    General Discussion