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Originally posted by Rayana
Originally posted by lorndarkenin some games where there was pvp , most people would not dare compete in the pvp because the pvp was risky, eq , you die the enemy could then loot your corpse , sell it or use the items you took
The yellow highlight there is the key. You're hitting the nail right on the head: harsh death penalties kill PvP activity.
i wanted to point out some of the strenghts and weaknesses of pvp in most games in comparison when it came to death penaltys. i still think though that daoc's armor repair should only be towars crafted armor and lowbie armor, not epic or mythic armor sets.
if eqoa has yet to go f2p, then there is no chance ever for war to go f2p.
Originally posted by karat76
Don't even start that carebear crap. I've dodged more bullets and survived more attempts on my life during my time in the army and law enforcement than a good portion of you have years on this planet. Its a game. I get so sick of the hardcore pvp crowd calling people carebears acting like they are billy bad ass. You boys wasnt to be hard core go to the military or take a law enforcement job in one the crime meccas infesting the US. Until then don't act like you are bad because you like to kill people in a game.
this is the funniest statement on this entire thread.
when talking about warhammers pvp being carebear, someone bring up real life scenarios to the table and gets offended for assuming anyone is calling them a carebear for even playing warhammer.
and then tells others to be apart of the army or police if they want hard core. lol
sir. you need to realise something first.. the entire topic was to talk about how warhammer has no true death penalty and thus it gives less thrill to the idea of surviving or dieing in a battle that could go either way unlike most pvp games that do have a penalty.
its not about people who are to come on and be all macho and act like they are the lich king him self and says stupid things like eyes pwnz alls of uzzzzz !!!111!!!1
no. most typical real "harcorezzz pvpers". might gank a lowbie for laughs once in a blue moon. but for the most part they would play the game as if they were in the real world . and knowing that simple little fact becarefull who you mess with cause the little kid might have a big brother comon sence plays in most mmos./ yes you have your cowards who kill and then run away., or your "leetz" but for the most part its about the immersion that puts players in the game to make them part of the game because of other players that in turn makes the gaming experince better for everybody.
thats what true pvp is. not your stupid fps pvp where you die and and come back and die , and come back and becomes stale really fast
im not sure what everybodys experince is in most mmos, but can say for the least that if anyone in here actully played some mmos in the past where they particaptated in pvp, they can tell you how the rush feels when you go into enemy zone and look for people to kill when there is a conqsequnce to dieing.
and vice versa.
back when eq2 put in a pvp server and they didnt mess around with the pvp that much. the game was tons of fun. i use to take my dark elf necromancer and go out into the world looking for a fight or making sure i didnt come across and good guys who were able enough to kill me. the feeling and rush i got from playing was soooooooooooo much fun i though i was in mmo heaven. the pvp in the game was great because i knew if i died., that was it.. i had to go back to town , get fixed up, pay some debts, do what was needed to be able to get back and enjoy some more. if lets say the pvp was like that of warhammers, then it would of got stale really fast.
and since this game warhammer is about the "RVR" when is people vs people from diffrent sides , you kinda want to send a message to the other guys why they stink and rub it in their face for being chumps, not be okay, that was a nice little pillow fight , wana be friends ? yay im a chaos and i made friends today with a high elf. ,
NO !!!!!, you want to hate each other,. and putting in a decent penalty to dieing in the game would add more fuel to the fire then anything.
i find it funny when you state a claim that has facts in it about something, people automaticly get offended and start a flame war and cry : "you want to play a game where you die and then someone shows up at your house and kicks your dog for about 5 mins" . lmao
did i say i wanted that to begin with ? no
i was just saying, the game is carebear for a pvp game.
do you feel on edge about dieing in this game ? i would think not since there is hardly a penelty to begin with.
if there was more of a penalty to pvping in this game , i would assume there would be more hate amogst the sides. order would hate destro and vice versa,
this is something that lacks in warhammer , but i would bet anything that if the penalty would be ,
in the rvr lakes. if you died you would get a xp half earn towards your current xp. cause everyone hates to level up slowly, but if their xp earned was due to a player killing you , i bet you would be mad , and play the game more carefully. but instead they give you a timer for -hp .
but the original statement i made is true about this game,
now the question is , is it hurting the game or helping it, having no consequence when you die in warhammer ?
Originally posted by ParkCarsHere
Your ideas, Lizard_SF, are beyond revolutionary. You should work for Mythic!
One suggestion though, if I may edit an already-perfect plan, is that instead of simply having your character deleted and being charged on your credit card for $100, that they also deactivate your account (although still charging $15/month that cannot be cancelled) and require you to buy a new game, create a new account, and pay an addition $15 a month.
I just realized that it is because they did not implement any of these features that I am no longer having fun in PvP. Only if they do this will PvP in this game be fun.
Edit: By the way, I guarantee it that if Mythic added a penalty for death, the OP would be running back to WoW PvP...
what ?, when do i play wow ?
What is your favourite race to play in Lord of the Rings Online?