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• • A real Pirates Vs. Ninjas game...

  • Originally posted by Ahnilator
    

    Add some zombies and robots and I'm totally in!

    
     

    *nods at the posters wisdom*

    a zombie-robot-ninja-pirate based game wont totally suck at all, in fact i think if we added ancient sumarians and angels to the mix it would balance up perfectly

    so make it a ninja - pirate - zombie - robot - ancient sumarian - angel facion based RvR game set in modern-day superhero-infested cityscape and i'm there!

  • Posted: 10/12/08 11:03 PM
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• • Same old, same old?

  • Originally posted by sUpertaisoO
    

    .... it does not have "Extreme grinding " elements at all actually.Grindings like ONLY killing and killing and killing and level up.This ain't like that u easily level up when u do quests..

    
     

    actually it does... as i posted elsewhere:-

     

    All level-based games require attainment of xp (experience points) in order to attain the next level. Typically this is done by the completion of quests and killing of monsters (mobs). In some respect ALL can be considered a 'grind'. However, there are quantitative and qualitative differences to the 'grind', some can be mathematically measured, others are based on subjective experienced (they are independent measures, yet the former can influence the latter)

    PW has a very low quantitaive and qualitative grind scores initially, questing (including daily quests) providing most of the XP required to level, and little requirement to 'farm' XP.

    After you have attained level 60 or so, the XP farming requisite causes both measures of grind to increase steeply. So now questing and daily quests (both Eunace / Rosalind and (WQ) world-quest) provide only a small % to the next level, requiring 80-90+% of the XP needing to be found by farming. As you move through the 7X levels, a solo player cherry-picking mobs for XP and grinding as hard-and fast as they can will make LESS than 1% of a level in an hour.

    Therefore players need to find 'zhens' (AOE parties) to increse this 1% / hour to 5% / hour. This is attainable with XP scrolls and burning through hierograms ('charms' in the expensive US cash shop) - not all players can afford to do this, and some classes (WF) are excluded from these parties all together. Of course AoE parties are unlikely to be uninterrupted. The controlling guilds will routinely scout the AoE areas for parties and PK them because they dont want others levelling to catch them up, and to waste your scrolls, dolls and heiros

    This is just the start of the XP - grind slope... it will continue to worsen as you pass through the 70s into the 80s and beyond (most players i knew have quit either in their 70s or 80s due to the tedious nature of XP farming)

    of course the XP grind is not the only grind here. Item grind is another tedium. Since there is a huge advantage in having better gear, you will probably want some of that uber-loot. so you farm FBs for molders and HH for mats. Party requirements, drop rates, and endless farming the same instances over and over, make this yet another tedious grind.

    when the endless XP / item grinds stretch out before you to infinity most players think "screw this - i stopped having fun a while back, time to move on" and quit.
     

  • Posted: 9/18/08 11:58 AM
    Perfect World
• • Same old, same old?

  • Originally posted by NotArkard 

    I didn't realize you had to be an experienced player in order to write a review for a game. Wasnt aware anyone has said that (i know i didnt). It certainly helps if you at least play it rather than basing it on - "I only had to check out some screens, read up a bit, youtube around and ask some friends of their opinions."  

    What a shame, I was planning on trying this game out, so I could write my thoughts about it later. Dont let me stop you, though if you write a review at least play the game, and be honest if it is just an 'initial impression' based on a few levels.

    It seems like the community doesn't want anyone unless they're planning on sticking around to whatever arbitrary level this particular game "opens up" at. Again you seem to read whatever you like into any situation / dialogue, regardless of what was actaully said. I mentioned lvl 30 specifically, because it is where the pvp becomes unlocked, and is at a point whereby a player should have experienced at least one of the dungeons, moved out of the starter areas, and got beyond the most basic of skills.

    While it is a poor review by all standards, your counter-arguments to the reviewer are equally poor. How so? If a reviewer shows no sign of any familiarity with the game and makes stupid criticisms ('OMG it uses classes and a familiar UI'), it is only right the weakness of the review is pointed out to them so they can improve.

    Here's a tip: If you want people to play the game, don't talk about how much it is like every other game, even if the features are very similar to most games out there right now. I couldnt give a flying f*ck if you play or not, nor i am not trying to get others to play it. The fact that nearly all other fantasy MMOs are based on classes and levels, and that UIs are all pretty standard is just a fact. Criticising the game because of this is equally as retarded as going onto AoC or WAR forums and objecting to their use of established UI design, and the utilisation of tank, dps, and healing classes. Honestly your tip seems more suited to someone who wants to say, 'OMFG this game is teh greatest evar 111eleventy1!' 

    Now, if your goal is to play by yourself, then, never mind me. I dont play the game at all anymore, and indeed have given some pretty damning criticisms of the game in other threads...

    and no i dont mind you... However, i would appreciate if you would stop incorrectly attributing my objectives in order to fulfill whatever need you have to defend the crappy review.

    
     

  • Posted: 9/12/08 9:03 PM
    Perfect World
• • Same old, same old?

  • Originally posted by Plazma93
    

    Something thats been playing on me a bit is whats with the amount of talk and hype about this game. It doesnt really seem to bring anything we haven't seen before to the plate. I only had to check out some screens, read up a bit, youtube around and ask some friends of their opinions to find out all we have here is another same old same old pretty much. To sum it up "Another bish bosh bash korean grinding game" Is the general response I received. << Im not the one stating that

    its chinese not korean
    
    Let's to start off. The interface , aha the typical mmorpg interface, you got your hp bars, minimap, char bar, hotkeys and a nice view of your characters ass as per usual. Nothing new here really. They keyboard shortcuts were pretty obvious just felt like another mmorpg. I mean well, at least it had the mmorpg feel but wasnt really anything new.

    yes every game now uses well-established UI formats with little variety
    
    
    The flying, well we've seen that before, Flyff.
     

    Aion will make it 3!

    
    Classes are similar to that of most other mmorpgs out there

    class / level based games all follow similar formats, tank / dps / heal...
    
    Graphics well, not exactly great really are they... Lets be honest... The concept was pretty good but the graphics werent really that great comparing to other games that in my opinion had a nicer look to them such as cabal.

    graphics are entirely personal preferences, personally i think the graphics are infinitely better than WoWs, yet (like WoW) does not require a high-end machine
    
    On a positive note this is one of the few free mmorpgs that let you jump - woohoo, but thats pretty much the only cool and different thing about this game.

    bunnyhoppers are lame IMO - luckily ppl dont tend to bunnyhop in this game

    Im speaking from what the game looks like to me, people who have played the game in deph could probably give some things that are slightly diffrent about this game than others but I know how it looks to me, another same old, same old mmorpg with not alot new to offer.

    its a pretty solid game with lots of questing. but the grind at mid-later levels (70+) is a turn-off for me and will be for many. i've played a few korean games, and IMO PW is clearly a level above all of them at least
    
    To be fair, if you want a free game then maybe this is for you I could think of other free mmorpgs that top this in my personal opinion but really, honest advice... Just get warcraft, or wait for warhammer online!

    what free games do you think are better than this? seriously, of the several i've tried, NONE even come close

    Edit: Oh, just remembered ... The other good point was the character creation, thats pretty good but I feel its a bit of a waste of time seeing as the game graphics are as poor as they are.

    yes the char creation is excellent, it only lacks a height slider IMO, but again IMO both the graphical style and the chars are good ... much better than many p2p western games, and all the f2p games ive seen
    
    Word of the day here is: IN MY OPINION, and my opinion might not be yours.

    it makes me wonder what you've based your opinions on... "I only had to check out some screens, read up a bit, youtube around and ask some friends" ahh - that explains it

    
    IMO - this is one of the worst reveiws of a game ive ever read, it seems entirely based on prejudice, with no first-hand experience

    indeed i wouldnt be surprised if you have never even played it (certainly i would be extreemly surprised had you even made say level 30 where pvp opens up (an experienced player can make that in 1 day)

     

  • Posted: 9/12/08 11:44 AM
    Perfect World
• • ventrilo ugh

  • Originally posted by InTheSea
    

    Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
    

    I've begun telling everybody who asks me to get on Vent that I'm deaf...

     

    I have actually started to do this too. I don't want to chat with people online...

     

    
     

    excellent idea - i'm gunna start to do this too 

    and to avoid all those pesky /tells , im gunna tell these ppl i'm blind (will they fall for it?)

  • Posted: 9/12/08 9:11 AM
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